Hey! What's wrong with us black girls?

<p>
[quote]
This is a very telling statement, because it essentially equates some races with certain "flaws" such as being short and fat.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>You're reading waaay too much into that. Just because someone prefers someone of a certain height doesn't mean there's anything "wrong" with those that don't fit into that preference. Same with weight preferences. What doesn't do it for one person does for another...what's the big deal with admitting it? </p>

<p>I happen to have a strong preference for guys that are 6'1-6'5 with dark hair, a lean/athletic build, pretty eyes, and (believe it or not...it is a little odd) slightly crooked teeth, but it doesn't mean that I think anyone without those qualities is flawed...just that they're not my ideal type. And yeah, when I date people they may not fit that description perfectly, but they are always close to it.</p>

<p>Ugh...forget it. Until people can stop pointing fingers for five seconds and finally admit that there are people within every race that support negative stereotypes, nothing will ever change. You can't fix what you don't acknowledge. </p>

<p>I just feel sorry for the people that actually have to deal with assumptions that couldn't be further from the truth.</p>

<p>Ok let's clear some things up. The statement "I will not date outside of my race" is racist. Why is this racist? I find it impossible to believe that a human being is just not attracted to someone because of skin color. There are beautiful women and attractive men of every race. Of course, not all would find person A attractive and not all would find person B attractive. Everyone has different things. I remember at a young age(about 11 or 12) seeing a beautiful black girl and going "Wow, she's really attractive for a black girl", a statement I had heard many times before in my household. I think it's probably the same type of thing for those people saying things like they wouldn't date outside of their race. It's not that they are very unattracted to a certain race(just a ridiculous statement considering how different people look in every race), but rather an underlying racist attitude towards a potential love interest.</p>

<p>Black girls aren't submissive enough for white males.</p>

<p>HeyFreeman, well said. </p>

<p>It's not that people don't like Blacks because of dark skin; they don't like dark skin because of Blacks. It's not that people don't like Asians because of their eyes; they don't like their eyes because they're Asian. And so on and on.</p>

<p>People say ignorant things like how Blacks are too ghetto or Asians are too short, but if that was their true feeling, then they would just say they liked well-mannered and tall people instead of blaming everything on another's race.</p>

<p>jaso9n2:</p>

<p>Quickly! Stereotype both white males and black females in one post.</p>

<p>Like, damn. Not all white males want a submissive girlfriend (not more than males of any other race), and not all black girls are hardcore dominant.</p>

<p>
[quote]

Ok let's clear some things up. The statement "I will not date outside of my race" is racist. Why is this racist? I find it impossible to believe that a human being is just not attracted to someone because of skin color.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>You're stating an opinion, not a fact. You may find it hard to believe, but I don't.</p>

<p>I'm not racist. Racism is when one person thinks that a group of individuals are beneath himself, and does not believe in their rights. It's most certainly not when I choose not to date someone because of certain attributes.</p>

<p>It's like saying I'm racist because I'm not attracted to fat girls. </p>

<p>Cheers</p>

<p>i'm not going to bother to read through the thread to see if someone said it yet, but i just thought i'd comment on the holier-than-thou statements along the lines of "looks don't matter" or "i don't care about beauty." please...if that were the case, internet relationships would actually work, phone-only relationships would actually be meaningful, and there would be little reason to see people in person. maybe that's a bit exaggerated, but you get the point.</p>

<p>in my opinion, it may be true that personality is one of the most important factors in growing a relationship, but i believe that it does first take a bit of physical attraction in order to go deeper. and i don't think it's shallow in saying that...i think it's the case for all humans, to some degree, that in order to really start to have feelings for the person, there has to be at least a small spark of lust to get things started...like an igniter in a car (haha...weird analogy, but it works).</p>

<p>in my case, there was a girl at school who was awesome...nice, great sense of humor, played music (as did i) and all that...but i just couldn't get attracted to her. i think she wanted "more" from our friendship, but i just didn't feel the same way. am i shallow? i don't think so, there has to be a line between great friends and romantic relationships. and to be on topic, she was of a different race (i'm asian, she's white), but that really didn't factor in. i don't really have a strict racial preference...but honestly, i haven't found a black girl that i've been strongly attracted to yet, but if i do at some point, i'm not going to rule her out based on race.</p>

<p>
[quote]
You're stating an opinion, not a fact. You may find it hard to believe, but I don't.</p>

<p>I'm not racist. Racism is when one person thinks that a group of individuals are beneath himself, and does not believe in their rights. It's most certainly not when I choose not to date someone because of certain attributes.</p>

<p>It's like saying I'm racist because I'm not attracted to fat girls.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>I'm glad you know the definition. To say you would not date outside your own race is saying that they are beneath you. Being fat and being black are not the same thing. A person can change being fat, any race can be fat, there is not only a certain group of people that can be fat. There is however, only a certain group of people that are black,white, and so on. I'm not sure how more clear I can make it for you. There are beautiful people of every race. Try and deny that. Since that is a fact, the fact that you won't date them stems from racism(or was it the bible in your case?).</p>

<p>
[quote]
It's like saying I'm racist because I'm not attracted to fat girls.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>That's a false analogy, though it seems apt at first glance.</p>

<p>Why? Because things like obesity are what I like to call "internal factors of discrimination", while race is an "external factor of discrimination". </p>

<p>What's the difference?</p>

<p>Obesity can affect anybody: your parents could be fat, your children could be fat, even YOU could one day become fat. Therefore, despite society's undeniable bias against fat people, it's a bias that can potentially affect anyone at any given time. The same thing goes for shortness.</p>

<p>However, race doesn't affect everybody: you're born with it and you wear it on your face like a permanent yellow Star of David. By singling out people of a certain race, it's easy to relegate them to a faraway place and live in complete separation. There's no "danger" of Blackness or Asianness or Whiteness suddenly striking your family, thus forcing you to adopt a new perspective. The only way for races to become an internal factor of discrimination is to intermarry, and according to some of you here, that's not desirable or natural. Thus it'll always be easy to identify those of a certain race, keep them at an arm's length (away from one's family), and live in "racial harmony".</p>

<p>Understand?</p>

<p>People are attracted to beautiful and kind people. By rejecting an entire race, consisting of millions and millions of people, you are calling them ugly and not personable, no matter how you try to sugarcoat your "natural preferences". By equating race with things like obesity and shortness, you're saying that certain races are a flaw in themselves. That is the very definition of racism.</p>

<p>lol @ this thread</p>

<p>Seriously.</p>

<p>I'm trying as hard as possible not to be racist or stereotypical, but generally black women are VERY loud and VERY agressive and/or violent... with ignorant attitudes. Not all black women are like this, but for some reason most I encounter are.</p>

<p>I LOVE hot black chicks and I'm white (Italian, for what its worth). It has to do with experiences in my early adolescence. I was doing the nerdy side of a hip hop project (engineering, sound design, etc.) and became friends w/some local gangster rappers, who in their day-to-day lives were nice, well mannered guys. They invited me and my other white friend to a party. We had some drinks, and before you know it, we were grinding w/2 of the finest thickest black chicks ive ever seen. Perfect bodies, cute faces, it was awesome. </p>

<p>In general, I like that
1. Black girls have booty-often times w/o having extra weight.
2.Black girls can dance
3. Black girls don't have as much of an entitlement issue as hot white girls.
4. Black girls listen to better music than most white chicks, depending on the girl-I grew up on rap/p-funk/james brown, etc. and I hate emo-pop crap.</p>

<p>Question is, would you date a guy who is 5'9?</p>

<p>Well, I'm 5'4" so everyone is taller than me--lol.</p>

<p>
[quote]
I'm trying as hard as possible not to be racist or stereotypical, but generally black women are VERY loud and VERY agressive and/or violent... with ignorant attitudes. Not all black women are like this, but for some reason most I encounter are.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>Where do you live, South Central L.A.?</p>

<p>The thing is even if that's true in your immediate area, most people wouldn't stereotype ALL Whites if they happened to live in a trailer park in Nebraska. They'd just have negative views of White trailer park people in Nebraska. But with Blacks and other minorities, their lowest common denominator becomes their everlasting stereotype.</p>

<p>I am black and i will tell you tht whether someone is racist or not isn't something you can debate with the hope of converting the person's perceptions. i think every individual has racial prejudices jus like pple have sexual prejudices or nationality prejudices. i am fine with pple not takin a liking for black pple based on whtever facts or assumptions that they might be individually privy to as long as they do not express such prejudices in my face with the hope of demeaning me or making feel less humane (get what i mean). My current girl friend is white and my previous was black and i would date either were they each purple or even green. For me dating is based on what is inside and if i click with the individual in question. I will not date a black girl i cannot stand when there are girls of other races that i might be more compatible with based solely on the fact that the girl is the same color as i am. i was born orange due to some skin condition and had to be radiated to gain and retain melanin and thus be black like i am.</p>

<p>Race and weight are both attributes which a romantic decision (by me, at least) CAN and WILL be based on. If you don't like that, I'm sorry. But it's most certainly NOT being racist.</p>

<p>Again, we live in America so that we can choose who to be with. If I don't want to date black girls, I have every right to single them out, and say no. It's not racist, it's my personal preference.</p>

<p>Ok this is how I roll. When chosing a girl for dating purposes, I look at the following criteria in order.</p>

<ol>
<li>Race. Must be Indian. :)</li>
<li>Attractive.</li>
<li>Personality. </li>
</ol>

<p>I do find girls of other races quite attractive but I never take them seriously because I know most of them would prefer somebody of their own race. Don't lie to yourselves people, you guys WOULD prefer to date someone in your own race and whose culture is familiar to yours. Don't deny that! Also, I read in one NY Times article that in online-dating services 97% women say they have no preference for race when looking for a relationship, even though barely 20% contacted men of a different race.</p>

<p>On first glance, I don't take white, chinese/korean/japanese, black or hispanic girls seriously for dating purposes.</p>

<p>"But it's most certainly NOT being racist."</p>

<p>It's not being racist even though you're discriminating who you will and will not date by race?... That's ridiculous.</p>

<p>It IS racist buddy. The next time a Black girl asks you out (can't say I can see why any girl at all would be interested in you at that), just tell them that she's a negro and you don't go out with negros.</p>

<p>And MightyNick that's the biggest load of crap I've ever read. Of course I'll be more comfortable with a woman of Hispanic descent because I'm Hispanic as well (they're the sexiest women on earth and you can't deny that :P), but I date other women as well. </p>

<p>And for ****'s sake, INDIAN IS NOT A RACE!</p>

<p>
[quote]

"But it's most certainly NOT being racist."</p>

<p>It's not being racist even though you're discriminating who you will and will not date by race?... That's ridiculous.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>How is it ridiculous? Don't give me some vague answer. I have every right to turn anyone down for a date.</p>

<p>
[quote]

It IS racist buddy. The next time a Black girl asks you out (can't say I can see why any girl at all would be interested in you at that), just tell them that she's a negro and you don't go out with negros.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>I'll do that, thanks for the advice. I can also very clearly see how you can base a remark like "not that I can see why any girl at all would be interested in you" by just talking to me on an internet forum. That's perfectly logical. ^_-</p>