HHHHELP PLEASE! Seriously freaking out as deadline approaches USC (full ride) v Penn

<p>Here is a list of the awards won by Penn's University Scholars in recent years:
Beinecke Scholarship
2004-05 - Monica Park (COL '06)
2003 - Eric Knibbs (COL '04)
2002 - Lauren Delfs (COL'03)
2001 - Yaran Noti (COL'02)
1999 - George H. Blaustein (COL'00)
1994 - Meredyth Krych (COL'95)</p>

<p>Boren Fellowship
2004-05 - Miriam Enriquez (Med)
2004-05 - Michael Nicholson (COL 05)
Carnegie Junior Fellows
2005-06 - Michael Grosack (COL 06)</p>

<p>Churchill Scholarship
2003 - Jon Wanderer (COL/EAS '03)
2002 - Vijay Sankaran (COL/EAS'02)
1991 - William Feehery (EAS'92)
1984 - William Hirschberg (EAS'84)
1978 - Peter Eisenhardt (COL'78)
1975 - John Brady (EAS'75)</p>

<p>DAAD Scholarship
2004 - Susan Jane Anderson</p>

<p>Dow Nang Fan Scholarship
2002 - Chris Balme (COL/WH'03)
2002 - Sherman Yang (COL/WH'03)</p>

<p>Fulbright Grant
2005-06 - Jessica Boehman (GAS): " The Roman Baroque Workshop of Ercole Ferrata", Italy
2005-06 - Alison Chang (GAS): "The Female Nude in Munch's Late Work"
2005-06 - Jesse David (COL 06): "The Potential of Multicultural Education in Israel"
2005-06 - Amelia Duffy-Tumasz (COL 06): Co-wives and Credit; exploring empowerment in Senegal"
2005-06 - Benjamin Kaplan (COL 2005): Representations of Ethnicity in Contemporary Korean Art"
2005-06 - Amar Majmundar (MED/GAS): "Mental Health Assessment in Gujarat, India"
2005-06 - James Melvin (GAS): "Regulating the Clergy in Early Modern Avila", Spain
2005-06 - Tara Mendola (COL 06): "Triglossia: Language and Moroccan Fiction"
2005-06 - Zaid Mohiuddin (COL 05): "Society: Stimulating or Suppressing Community Development NGOs"
2005-06 - Lina Ragep (COL/GAS 06): Arabic Language Study in Syria"
2005-06 - David Sheeren (COL 05): "International Trade: A Chilean Case Study" 2005-06 - Moses Sternstein (COL 06): Egypt
2005-06 - Cara Tobin (GEng): Integrating Renewable Energies within Desalination", Switzerland
2005 - Amin Venjara (COL/EAS 04): Classical Foundation of Islamic Business Ethics", Syria
2005-06 - Mary Beth Wetli (GAS): "History in Schiller's Aesthetic and Dramatic Works", Germany
2005-06 - Spencer Willig (COL 2006): "The Journalism of Chingiz Aitmatov": Kyrgyzstan
2005-06 - Zachary Yorke (Fine Arts): "The Body Politic in South African Art"
2005-06 - Mary Zeng (COL 06): "The Development and Future of Turkish Nationalism"</p>

<p>2004-05 - Patrick Brugh
2004-05 - Andrew Casper
2004-05 - Miriam Enriquez
2004-05 - Kimberly Fitch
2004-05 - Scott Kend
2004-05 - Michael Liskow
2004-05 - Marton Markowitz
2004-05 - Muhammed Mekki
2004-05 - John Moran
2004-05 - Genevra Murray
2004-05 - Michael Nicholson
2004-05 - Anne Oravetz
2004-05 - Peter Ou
2004-05 - Charles Preston
2004-05 - Greg Robinson
2004-05 - Kelly Ross
2004-05 - Eleanor Scott
2004-05 - Judy Shen
2004-05 - Connie Yang</p>

<p>French Government Teaching Scholar
2004-05 - Jamie-Lee Josselyn (COL '05)</p>

<p>2003 - Sucharita Adluri (GAS): Transformations in Hinduism: A Case Study from South India.
2003 - Kathleen Barthmaier (WH '03): Binational Business Internship, Mexico
2003 - Elise Carpenter (GAS): Development and Health in Botswana: Clinical transformations caused by the implementation of ARVT.
2003 - Christopher Close (GAS): Judicial Persecution and Practised Tolerance in Sixteenth Century Kaufbeuren, Germany.
2003 - Katharine Davis (COL '03): Ethnoarchaeology at Tiwanaku, Bolivia
2003 - Brian Ehrlich (COL '03): Developing an Anti-Poverty Strategy in the Dominican Republic.
2003- Alexa Firat (GAS): Delineating the Parameters of the Syrian Novel within the context of the Arabic Literary Heritage, Syria.
2003 - Rachel Fleischer (COL '03): English Teaching Assistantship, South Korea
2003 - Brooke Jones (COL/WH '03): The effects of an increase in "legal"collateral on the profitability of microfinance institutions, Peru.
2003 - Megha Jonnalagadda (COL '03): English Teaching Assistantship, Turkey.
2003 - Atul Joshi (WH '03): Binational Business Internship, Mexico.
2003- Vani Krishnamurthy (COL '01): South Asian History, India.
2003 - Eric Lee (COL/EAS '03): Molecular Biology, Austria
2003 - Jonah Lowenfeld (COL '03): High-Rise Council Housing in Britain: An Historical Review for Creative Reuse, United Kingdom.
2003 - Efthimios Parasidis (LAW '00): Social and Legal Implications of Implied Consent and Disclosure, Greece 2003 - Marjorie Rosenfelt (COL '03): Teaching Assistantship, France.
2003- Avshalom Rubin (COL '03): Resolution 242 in History, Israel.
2003- Paul Zimmerman (GAS ): Middle Hadramawt Archaeological Survey: changing settlement patterns in ancient Yemen.</p>

<p>2002 - Christine Bare (COL'02): "Andean Agriculture"; Peru
2002 - Timothy Dobe (GAS): "Sainthood in Three Religious Traditions"; India
2002 - Dan Edelstein (GAS): "Study of Mythological Imagination"; France
2002 - Jesse Fuchs-Simon (COL'02): "Creating a Type I Diabetes Registry"; Ecuador
2002 - Maribeth Gainard (COL/WH'02): "Organizational Learning in Economic Development"; Mali
2002 - John Nemec (GAS): "Language, Religion, and Secular Power in Tantric Shaivism"; India
2002 - Sabah Rahman (COL'02): "Freedom of Women as a Measure of Development"; Bangladesh
2002 - Krishna Reddy (COL'01): "The Structure-Function Relationship of Neuronal Nicotinic Receptors"; Spain
2002 - Nicole Vujan (NURS'02): "Role of Community Health Nursing in the Prenatal Experiences of Women"; Mexico</p>

<p>2001 - Veronica Aplenc (GAS): "Islands of Confinement"; Slovenia
2001 - Mark Brosseau (GFA): "Dualism in Painting and Iceland"; Iceland
2001 - Hilary Dick (GAS): "When Migration Is Culture: How Some Mexicans Become Migrants"; Mexico
2001 - Gregory Flaxman (GAS): "The Detection of Science and the Science of Detection"; France
2001 - Ian Gelfand (COL'01): "Scanned Probe Studies of Nanostructures"; Germany
2001 - Stephen Lee (COL'01): "Study of Arabic"; Egypt
2001 - Matthew McHugh (GrN): "The Family Health Nurse Study"; Denmark
2001 - Whitney Miller (COL'01): "Kabuki Theater: Timelessness in a Changing Japan"; Japan
2001 - Andrea Morton (COL'01): "Schroeder's Influence on Germany's Role in the European Union"; Germany
2001 - Rebecca Schrage (COL'01): Teaching English Assistantship in Korea
2001 - Jae Song (COL'01): "Determining the Mechanism of Development of the Locus Coerulus"; Germany
2001 - Ashley West (GAS): "The Art of Hans Burgkmair the Elder: Defining and Transmitting Knowledge"; Germany
2001 - Teresa Wojcik (GrED): "At the Epicenter of Change: Civics Education in Post-Communist Poland"; Poland </p>

<p>Gates Cambridge Scholarship
2005-06 - Lauren Zeitels COL/GAS '06
2004-05 - Daniel Di Censo
2004-05 - Philip Geheb
2004-05 - Alastair Green
2004-05 - Carl Pfendner</p>

<p>2003 - David Bard (WH/EAS '03)
2003 - Susana Goldfinger (COL '02)
2003 - Sunjay Mishra (WH/EAS '03)</p>

<p>2002 - Alexander Bernhardt (WH/EAS'02)
2002 - Amol Pawar (COL'02)
2002 - Albina Shayevich (COL 01)</p>

<p>2001 - Amanda Codd (COL'01)
2001 - Bartlomiej Szewczyk (WH'01)</p>

<p>German Chancellor Scholar
2004-05 - Matthew Rao</p>

<p>Goldwater Scholarship
2005-06 - Tara Kaufmann (COL 07)
2005-06 - Paul Scherer (COL 08)
2005-06 - Jonathan Singer (EAS 08)
2005-06 - Judy Liu(COL 07)
2004-05 - Megan Schwamb (COL 07)</p>

<p>2003-04 - Khanh Thieu (EAS/WH 05)
2003-04 - Lauren Zeitels (COL/GAS 06) </p>

<p>2003 - Jonathan Bronson (COL '05)
2003 - Annemarie Fernandes (COL '05)
2003 - Ramez Haddadin (EAS '04)</p>

<p>2002 - Jason Chinitz (COL'03)
2002 - Jonathan Wanderer (EAS/COL'03)
2002 - Aryeh Warmflash (COL'03)</p>

<p>2000 - Clif Haugen (WH/EAS'01)
2000 - Daniel Sherman (COL'01)
2000 - Josh Gruber (COL'01)
1999 - Adrian Shieh (SEAS '00)
1998 - Jennie Brotman
1997 - Rajiv Singh (COL '97)
1995 - Steven Kushner (COL '97)
1994 - Joseph Bessetti
1993 - Antonia Davis
1993 - Oliveria Kesler (SEAS '94)
1992 - Rennan Bar-Kana (COL '93)
1992 - Catherine Kuntz
1991 - Thomas Roberts</p>

<p>Institute for International Public Policy Fellowship
2004 - Veyom Bahl (COL 07)
2003 - Jacquelin King (COL 06)</p>

<p>Luce Scholars Program
2004 - Daniel Schar (VET 02)
2002 - Radhika Shroff (COL/WH'95, WG/G'00)
2001 - Jon Ang (WH'97) Thailand
1998 - Amanda Fine (VET'97) Mongolia
1995 - Michael Dal Bello (COL/WH'93) China
1988 - Jonathan Zax (WHG'88) China
1987 - James O'Conor (WHG '87) Korea
1987 - Lisa Armstrong (WH/COL'82, GFA'87) Thailand
1986 - Joseph Finetti (MED'88) Thailand
1982 - Hope Rugo (MED'83) Philippines
1978 - Robert Butkin (LAW'78) Philippines</p>

<p>Marshall Scholarship
2005-06 - Aziza Zakhidova (WH/COL '06)
2004-05 - Gabriel Mandujano (WH/COL 05)
2004-05 - Harveen Bal (COL 05)
2002 - Adam Zimbler (COL/WH '03)
2001 - Ari Alexander (COL'01)
2000 - Andrew March (COL'00)
1991 - Paul Borgese (COL/WH'90)
1985 - Michael Klarman (COL'84)</p>

<p>Mellon Fellowship
2004-05- Jesse Salazar COL 05
2004-05 - Dan Shu COL 04
2002 - Afia Ofori-Mensa (COL'02)
2002 - Paul Padovano (COL'02)
2002 - Beatrice Jauregui (COL'00)
2001 - Sofya Malamud (COL '01) - Linguistics
2000 - Leah Sweet (COL '95) - Art History
1999 - Shana Cohen (COL '97) - History and Philosophy of Science
1999 - Zubin Khambatta (COL '96) - Political Philosophy
1999 - Nathalie Peutz (COL '94) - Cultural Anthropology
1999 - Salamishah Tillet (COL '96) - American Studies
1999 - Dina Westenholz (COL '99) - English
1998 - Lauren Nauta (COL '97) - History
1998 - Allen Romano (COL '98) - Classics</p>

<p>National Science Foundation Fellowship
2005-06 - Pamela Barendt
2005-06 - Amitai Ben-Nun
2005-06 - Sarah Chobot
2005-06 - Monica Grant
2005-06 - Brigitta Gundersen
2005-06 - Alice Huang
2005-06 - Olga Shebanova
2005-06 - Praveen Srinivasan
2005-06 - Shannon Telesco
2005-06 - Sadie White
2004-05 - Justin Hulbert
2004-05 - Katera Moore
2003 - Kelly McGroddy (EAS '03)
2003 - Karen Sohn (EAS '03)</p>

<p>Lionel Pearson Fellowship
2005-06 - Monica Park</p>

<p>Rhodes Scholarship
2005-06 - Brett Shaheen (COL/WH '06)
2003-04 - David Ferreira (COL '04) 2001 - Lipika Goyal (COL'01)
1991 - Theresa Simmonds (COL'91, GED'02)
1986 - Joseph Torsella (COL'85)
1984 - Stephanie Dangel (COL/WH'84)
1969 - Patrick Norton
1963 - John Edgar Wideman
1939 - Frederic Ballard
1934 - Walter Chudson
1926 - Milton Nahm
1926 - William Lingelbach
1923 - Raymond Jack
1920 - John Lovitt
1919 - John Clarke
1914 - Morrison Boyd
1908 - Richard Schellens
1904 - Ellis Robins</p>

<p>Rotary Ambassadorial Scholarship
2004-05 - Leah Lowthrop (GAS)
2004-05 - Benjamin Klein (COL 06)
2004-05 - Priya Menon (COL 06)
2004 - Eli Schlam (COL 05)
2002 - Lincoln Ellis (COL '03), Brasil
2002 - Iman Martin (COL '03), Ghana
2001 - Vanessa Cuerel (COL'02)
2001 - Robert Le (COL'02)
2000 - Damian J.L. Werts (COL/WH'01)
1999 - Jaclyn LaPlaca (COL'99)
1998 - Adam S. Litwin (COL/WH'98)
1994 - Sandor Hau (WH'94)</p>

<p>Soros Fellowship
2005-06 - Colette Shen (MED)
2003-04 - Prashanth Jayaram
2002-03 - Richard Vidal (MED '06)
2001 - Dylan Pereira (WHG'02)</p>

<p>Thouron Award
2005-06 - Aimee Bailey
2005-06 - Janine Catalano
2005-06 - David Holtzman (Penn Med)
2005-06 - Jay Komarneni
2005-06 - Ruth McAdams
2005-06 - Danny Nieh
2004-05 - Danielle Trief
2004-05 - Mei Elansary
2004-05 - Hayley Lofink
2004-05 - Danielle Trief</p>

<p>2003 - Rya Conrad-Bradshaw (COL '03)
2003 - Madhan Gounder (WH '03)
2003 - Tevis Jacobs (COL '03)
2003 - Jacob Kraft (COL '03)
2002 - Pranav Gupta (EAS/WH'02)
2002 - Sherry Orbach (COL'02)
2002 - Robert Pringle (COL'01)</p>

<p>Truman Scholarship
2005-06 - Kimberly Hsu (COL 2007)
2005-06 - Kate Liberman (COL 2007) 1999 - Sarah Zimbler
1998 - Rachel Skerritt
1997 - Jamal Harris
1995 - Philippe Visser
1993 - Robert Klickovich
1990 - Joshua A. Engel
1990 - Todd Anderson
1989 - Chip Walker
1989 - Theresa Simmonds
1988 - Joel L. Sisenwine
1986 - Steven Chanenson
1982 - Larry Hunter
1981 - Sara G. Armstrong</p>

<p>Udall Scholarship
2000 - Clif Haugen (EAS/WH'01)
2000 - Wendy Tao (COL'01)
1999 - Clif Haugen (EAS/WH'01)
1999 - Cynthia Liebman (COL'00)</p>

<p><a href="http://www.upenn.edu/curf/fellowships/fellowships.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.upenn.edu/curf/fellowships/fellowships.htm&lt;/a>
The above link provides information on each of these awards.</p>

<p>I am a current Penn student and University Scholar, so if you have any other specific questions I'd be glad to help.</p>

<p>I'd go with USC....a full ride is hard to come by.</p>

<p>I'd go to USC. You seem mostly concerned with how your undergrad experience sets you up for grad school. Grad school admissions are usually based on:</p>

<p>GRADES...you'll probably have as good or better grades at USC as at Penn.</p>

<p>GRE SCORES...you'd probably score the same regardless of where you went.</p>

<p>FACULTY RECOMMENDATIONS...probably as good or better coming from USC as Penn.</p>

<p>WRITING SAMPLE...probably as good coming from USC as Penn.</p>

<p>REPUTATION OF UNDERGRAD SCHOOL...while Penn is typically ranked higher overall, it's not a night-and-day difference. It's not like USC is ranked 85th or something like that.</p>

<p>if you like Penn more, go to Penn
you seem really concerned with undergrad experience, and if you're only looking at USC because of the treatment it'll give you (TO, scholarship,etc) then i don't think it's a fitting school for you.. USC is great nonetheless
also, would you ever regret not picking an ivy when you got into one? it really depends on the individual, some regret it a lot, others, not so much.
where do YOU want to go, without all that scholarship stuff?</p>

<p>woah giant posts!</p>

<p>Well if you know you want to do film, then USC is the place to be. I recommend, though, that you contact the admissions office to ask about becoming a film major, since it is super-hard to get in (though you have a big hook as a trustee scholar).</p>

<p>you can always take some archaeology classes on the side or maybe even do a minor.</p>

<p>But really, you can't go wrong here either way.</p>

<p>As a current freshman at USC, I have been very happy with my undergraduate experience, and I find this school to be a stimulating academic environment. </p>

<p>You know that USC has a phenomenal film school, and with a recent $175 million donation from George Lucas, the school will continue to excel, with exceptional, unparalleled new facilities under construction. Programs in the College of Letters, Arts, and Sciences are also strong, and you will benefit from small class sizes and positive student-to-faculty interactions. Many undergraduates are attracted to research opportunities in the College. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.usc.edu/admission/undergraduate/private/docs/admission/Freshman_Profile_2006.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.usc.edu/admission/undergraduate/private/docs/admission/Freshman_Profile_2006.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>This website provides a profile of the current freshman class, which includes 101 Trustee Scholars (this is significantly higher than the percentage you mentioned). </p>

<p>USC has an excellent reputation, and graduates here progress to numerous top graduate schools.</p>

<p>I think that you shouldn't worry about grad school just yet! :) After all, it IS the case that if you do well at any school—USC, Penn, or Podunk U—you will have a very good chance of goign to the grad school of your choice. If you really want to study film, the USC full-ride is no-brainer... it's kind of a no-brainer even if you didn't want to study film if only because of all the money you'll be saving (especially if you want to go into a cutthroat business like film which doesn't promise loads of cash very quickly!).</p>

<p>penn, even with the usc full ride, it is a much better school</p>

<p>This is sort of off topic, but I noticed in the class profile that only 54% of USC students were from public high schools? Wow. What a privileged bunch. I wonder what it is at Penn.</p>

<p>Penn is a much better school at pretty much everything, but film is the one area where the department really matters and USC blows Penn out of the water.</p>

<p>I really agree with Slipper. If you are really passionate about film you should go to a school with a top film program—and NYU's Tisch School and USC really take the cake with that one. An okay film department is fine if you're not totally married to the film industry and are also looking for different departments (say, you want to double-major in psychology, etc.). </p>

<p>Regardless, going back to my previous point: how can you say no to a FULL-RIDE at a school with one of the very best programs in what you want to study?! I know kids at USC who get the craziest internships, jobs in the film industry due to the school's location and alum/otherwise connections. Truly unbeatable.</p>

<p>momfromme, that's mostly because the public high schools in california are.. not of quality</p>

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Regardless, going back to my previous point: how can you say no to a FULL-RIDE at a school with one of the very best programs in what you want to study?! I know kids at USC who get the craziest internships, jobs in the film industry due to the school's location and alum/otherwise connections. Truly unbeatable.

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<p>yeah but still, i would say he would get better job offers with an archaeology and film degree from penn than the same from usc.</p>

<p>Not in the film industry.</p>

<p>And please, it's not like all Penn graduates are handed awesome jobs on a silver platter. My best friend graduated from there last year, had a 3.5 GPA which is decent, I think, and had not a single job offer. One year later, still searching. My brother goes there now too and didn't get an internship until my father helped him get one with a connection. Maybe he'll have better luck later but he's a really great student and has good ECs, and so by your measure he should've gotten everything? Things are competitive no matter where you go, and it's really silly to think that going to Penn will guarantee everything for you.</p>

<p>I think it's quite impressive that you got a full-ride based on merit to a great school.</p>

<p>If he wants a job in consulting, yes, Penn will help him more. But if he wants a job in film there is no comparison, USC wins bigtime.</p>

<p>But interestingly, USC also has one of the highest percentages pf Pell Grand recipients, so it's just another school with few middle class kids.</p>

<p>hey im just wondering what your portfolio looked like to get into USC Film</p>

<p>The OP did not apply to the film school at USC, but is making a decision between the College of Arts and Sciences at Penn vs. the College of Arts and Sciences at USC.</p>