Hidden gems: acting programs - BFA or similar

As the parent of a student just beginning a BFA in theater (class of 2022), and someone who still has to pinch herself thinking about the fact that my family all survived the college application process, I wanted to start a thread about schools with acting programs that families have came across in our search processes which we believe to be wonderful options that fly somewhat (or even far) under most applicants’ radars.

Unless you’re brand-new to this forum, I’m sure you know by now that there’s No Such Thing as a Safety School when it comes to audition-based programs. I knew that going in, had done a ton of research, and a year ago this time, my D and I believed we were going into the process with our eyes wide open. Even so, by the end of the year, we realized later that her carefully selected list was heavier on the Super-Duper-Reach schools (and lighter on the Realm of Possibility schools) than we’d

I’m hoping other parents of HS class of 2018 (or earlier) can chime in (by copying & pasting the first comment below) and expanding the list.

Suggestions for this thread:

  1. Let’s try to keep it alphabetical. If a school you like is already on there, maybe you could just add your name etc. after that of the initial recommender.

  2. Not mandatory, obviously, but I will also be posting individual comments on the schools I’m personally adding. I’m guessing that many parents who might contribute to this will happily answer questions about why we think schools belong on this list.

  3. A request so as not to add unnecessary stress to this already-anxiety-soaked circus: Let’s try to keep this thread POSITIVE, not a place to slam programs that might have rejected our kids or with which we might not personally have been super impressed for whatever reason. Fit is an individual thing. Obviously people are free to reach out privately to others, but for the sake of not discouraging kids/families from really looking at places that could be a great fit FOR THEM and their needs, let’s try to avoid public bashing in this arena.

Cheers, and good luck to all!

The format I’m using here is:

Name of School. type of program) (recommender’s name: basis for rec)

  1. Loyola University (Chicago) (BA) (katew529: mom of successful applicant (not enrolled)
  2. University of Illinois, Chicago (BFA?) (katew529: D didn't apply, but I think it's a worthy, up & coming contender)
  3. University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign (BFA in acting) (TOP PICK of katew529: mom of successful applicant; not enrolled) (Detailed post to follow!)

Drew University (NJ) - Assume it’s a BA but not entirely sure. Local summer theatre group has a few students attending. Consistently has top 10 ranked theatre program in country.

Great idea for a thread! I especially agree with suggestion #3. Fit IS such an individual thing, it can’t be said enough.

LIU-Post (Long Island, NY) - BFA in both Acting and MT. (dramamamacc: mom of successful applicant, not enrolled.) This is a newi-sh program not many people had heard of last year, but we were very impressed with the direction they are headed. They already have recent graduates on Broadway and have a nationally ranked dance program, and MT/Acting students can take extra dance classes. As a mostly commuter school, they have a smaller population of on-campus students on a beautiful campus, and they gave a TON of money for great academics/test scores, plus artistic merit $$ which is rarer at schools.

Boston Conservatory (Boston) - admitted (audition), did not enroll. While this one is on the radar for most people for musical theatre, I mention it because they have a very cool contemporary theatre program that is building an outstanding reputation (at least with me!). Great location in a great college town, too.

UCSD (La Jolla, CA) - video audition optional, which he did. son admitted, not enrolled. We loved the flexibility of the program and the relationship with La Jolla playhouse. This is a BA. Like all the UC schools, not an easy admit for an out of state student, but our son was admitted here, wait-listed at Santa Barbara (no audition or video), and rejected from UCLA (audition) and Irvine (no audition of video).

UCSB (Santa Barbara) - son wait-listed, did not accept wait-list position. Even though we are east coast, this one was on the radar because both my grandparents went there. They have a BFA program that students audition into at the end of freshman year. A nice potential option for someone who thinks theatre is the thing, but who might want to try a couple of other things too before jumping in with both feet.

UC Irvine (Orange County, CA) - son rejected. Visited a couple times. They have a number of excellent facilities and are in the LA area. Like UCSB, students audition into the BFA program at the end of freshman year.

University of Denver (the Mile High City) - Son admitted (no audition), not enrolled. Look on the web because they have some really nice scholarships for theatre majors. My mom went here and Denver is my hometown. I have to say, I was a little sad when my son turned down their generous offer of admission and excellent financial aid.

Knox College (Galesburg, IL) - Did not apply. This one was on the radar until he was admitted to VCU (see below). They have a unique program where they put together a theatre company every three years and all the students do is produce and perform a show. It is like getting a professional experience while in college. I think of it as being a little like Interlochen, but much more comprehensive and more student-driven.

Kenyon College (Gambier, OH) - Son admitted, did not enroll. We were very positive on Kenyon. We visited twice and it was our number one BA pick among those that accepted him. It was the last school he said no to before enrolling elsewhere.Excellent facilities, strong tradition, many other students interested in writing. My sense is that there may be a lot of writers at Kenyon looking for actors to perform the things they write. There appeared to be a ton of out of classroom acting opportunities.

Loyola Marymount (LA) - Son admitted late, did not enroll. They have a wonderful early admissions program. Wish we had done that because it was very hard waiting until the decision came in sometime in late spring. Another great BA option and awesome that it is right in LA. Faculty appear to be working professionals. When our son auditioned at UCLA, the guy said he also taught classes at LMU.

University of Miami (Coral Gables, FL) - Did not apply. I put this one on the list because I almost went to Miami myself. Sent in the deposit, but ended up elsewhere for legitimate reasons. Anyway, having walked away from Miami (and the two football teams that won national championships over the next 4 years) after having committed in 1987, I felt like I owed them a shot at my first-born. Mom had other ideas and in our family we have two rules: 1) Mom is always right and 2) When mom is wrong, see rule #1. Wonderful campus. Well-resourced. I believe they have been committed for a long-time to building a world class university in every program they offer. If it is not already impossible, this is one of those schools that will get increasingly competitive down the road.

Virginia Commonwealth University (Richmond, VA) - Admitted (audition), did not enroll. Definitely do the early early application date and audition in early December. If you do that then you find out before Christmas (i think we heard on the 15th or 16th). If you can get a good one in hand early, it sure makes the rest of the process easier. By Christmas, son had already been admitted to VCU Performance Track, Denver, and LSU (I will always be thankful that they were first! I can still hear my son’s voice when he called to say that he was going to college - Thank you, LSU). This allowed us to aim high throughout the rest of the process. And if nothing else had come through, he would have been very happy to go to an excellent school like VCU - and my wallet would have been happy, too. This may be obvious, but I will just point out that after this whole process, I am sure he would have been happy at several of the schools. It was really splitting hairs to get to the final decision. I will always cheer for the VCU Rams because they made our life easier senior year by offering such a great option so early in the process.

I will also throw in a second for both Drew and Illinois Champaign/Urbana. A student from my son’s high school who was high school class of 2017 went to Drew and loves it. Her mother is a school drama teacher so I think they had a good idea what to look for. My son worked for 3 years with one of the faculty members at Illinois and learned a ton. We had wonderful impressions of both of these schools. My son applied to neither. Upon reflection, Illinois may have a very early application date. Check into that. We may not have applied because we missed the date.

Finally, the information is elsewhere in the final decisions posts, but to save you the trouble, our son enrolled in the BFA Acting program at Syracuse and is very happy after 1 week. Yeah for that! The other schools he applied to are generally on most people’s “look at” lists: Minnesota (admitted to BA), Depaul (pre-screen rejected), Fordham (admitted academically, but not to theatre program), JMU (admitted academically, withdrew prior to audition). Loved Fordham, too. Maybe it could have gone on the under the radar list, but I think most people know about it and it is in the heart of NYC right across the street from Lincoln Center. We spent several months last winter talking about going to Fordham and mastering the Denzel tear (Denzel went there). And he pretty much had it mastered on the day they rejected him from the theatre program… Luckily, Syracuse came in about 2 hours later.

Reminds me: March 16th was a big day. Over about a four hour period our son got rejected from Fordham theatre, admitted to UCSD, admitted to Syracuse (literally dancing in the street as I drove home from work), wait-listed at UCSB, and admitted to Kenyon. If you would have asked me the day before to rank his chances, I would have ordered from most likely to least likely this way: Fordham, UCSB, UCSD, Syracuse/Kenyon (tie). The admissions played out exactly the opposite…

Just writing this post makes me realize that there are so many good options out there. The key is to APPLY TO LOTS OF SCHOOLS because there is no rhyme or reason to this process. We received plenty of surprising admits and rejections. It makes no sense. Cast a VERY wide net. I believe our son applied to 16 schools.

And I just realized this is my post #100 (well it was #100 until I edited it). Probably a good place to stop and move on with the rest of my life. We will see. Good luck to everyone!!

@VASkydog great list! I just had to comment on your University of Miami comment though because it was awesome! LOL. My daughter is currently a sophomore there and is on the dance team cheering on the football team which is up and coming once again! (However, she is not an Acting major). My husband also went to UM and was there when they won one of those national championships, sorry you missed that chance! UM’s BFA Acting program is definitely rising and was just ranked #5 on OnStage Blog’s 2018-2019 Top 25 BFA Acting programs. Best of luck to your son! Syracuse is an amazing program! (and if you are wondering why I stalk these boards, it’s because my older daughter graduated with a BFA in Acting from NYU/Tisch in 2017 and it’s hard to let go! LOL)

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My daughter graduated in May from Drew and had 5 days off before getting her first professional gig…that one ended this month and she goes to her next gig (in a equity theatre) in less than a week. Drew was monumental in her getting these jobs!

@bisouu that’s awesome! Congratulations to your daughter!

The University of Mary Washington in Fredericksburg, VA often flies under several people’s radar for theatre. Small-ish program at a small liberal arts school. Not a BFA, but you should look it.

Temple University. They have a BFA program and “performance track” BA degrees in Theatre where you can do a BA and also get pre-professional training. You can audition for both as a student as well as a freshman applicant. We loved the spirit of the program and the positive vibe evident between theatre community members. Philly is a great town for theatre and Temple really leverages that.

Agreed. Drew is a BA, but they have excellent professional connections. The Shakespeare Theatre of New Jersey is on their campus!

Look at Michigan State University’s BFA, too. No pre-screen for auditions, options for film acting, musical theatre, outreach, improv, arts management/entrepreneur, and good professional connections.

UCF- Their acting program doesn’t have a prescreen. They take the Stanislavski approach predominately but many others are used. It is a competitive program but many students redirect to the BA Theatre Studies program. Freshmen and transfers can do what they call minor-to-major where they on paper are getting a minor in theatre but take full theatre schedules with some classes for their intended major. They then audtion during the year. Though that is also a competitive program, it gives many deserving kids a second shot. Tons of performance opportunities and the school has artistic partnerships with the Orlando Shakespeare Theatre, the Orlando Rep, and Walt Disney World. There are some opportunities for students to gather professional credits as an undergrad with these partnerships.

Baldwin Wallace has a new BFA Acting program, with emphasis in classical drama. The class that just started is only the second year that has auditioned for the program, and it is already listed in the top 20 BFA Acting programs 2018-19 by OnStageBlog. (Rating systems are not perfect, but it’s nice for them to be noticed already.) My son is a new freshman. Last week he was in a play by William Butler Yeats, based on Celtic folklore, and all in Old English. It was awesome! The kids are guaranteed casting in sophomore and junior class Shakespeare productions, and understudy opportunities at Great Lakes Theater. I think this program is still less well known, as it’s really new. So if you’re looking for classical drama, and a pretty, medium-sized college campus, might be worth a peek!

Another vote for the BA at Drew. We liked them - - and the Shakespeare Theater on campus.

Bennington College in VT has a very cool BA Drama.

College of the Holy Cross has a BA Theater. It is a more academic-y school than most. They put on and host great productions, and are about to break ground on a new Performing Arts building.

I don’t see any comments on NYU acting program. Could anyone give an idea about the program at NYU acting school .

@drb1 - my D graduated from NYU this past May. She loved her time there. I would be happy to answer any questions you have . NYU probably hasn’t gotten comments on this thread b/c it’s hardly a “hidden” gem :slight_smile:

My son who is a senior is not sure about acting school for college but has a passion for acting. Has been a consistent semifinalisy at national level speech and finalist in national circuit speech events in multiple categories apart from receiving state high school acting award for a role in high school musical and will likely be taken for a lead role in a play at a community play house this winter . Will audition for NYU acting program. He seems to be worried about career after college with intense competition for roles once students graduate . He will likely enroll if he gets into NYU . What’s the placement rate like for NYU grads.

@drb1 - placement rate?

@drb1, there’s no such thing as a “placement rate” for actors. There’s no company or job for them to get “placed” into. Actors are the ultimate “freelancers” - they audition for roles that are temporary. And very few make a living at it; the vast majority need a survival job to pay the bills while they audition.

^What actorparent1 said. No such thing as a placement rate for actors.