Highschool: Pot and Alcohol

<p>Work hard all week, smoke a bowl on the weekends. It’s just a nice way to relax and have fun with friends, particularly in the area where I live where there seriously is not much to do at all. Not saying that’s an excuse or anything, I just don’t have to think about how boring my city is when I’m high. I used to drink but I don’t like it so much anymore, I got pretty bad headaches from drinking; none of that with weed. Personally I don’t see anything wrong with it and it’s nobody’s business what I decide to “pollute” my body with. I don’t however see it as anything to brag about, and I absolutely HATE stoner culture. 420 SMOKE WEED EVERYDAYLOL</p>

<p>4throot, my guy. Listen, y’all, I’m not at all a “stoner”–in fact, there probably aren’t many yuppier, preppier kids around than myself–but I still find time to enjoy things you a) have never experienced and b) immaturely dismiss as dangerous and destructive. I also play a sport I’m quite involved in (of course, I don’t do anything in-season), I’m successful in multiple other extracurricular activities, and I have a pretty darn good social life. I also don’t find myself bored doing those things sober; I just choose to be non-sober upon occasion, and I’ve found it to be a truly fantastic break from the normal, everyday grind. Why don’t you try it before you slam it?</p>

<p>I don’t drink or smoke. I do not see myself in the future smoking. I don’t know about drinking. I might drink some champagne. In fact, I am going to bring champagne to celebrate my high school graduation in three years!</p>

<p>^I didn’t foresee myself smoking as a freshman in high school ;)</p>

<p>Neither did I</p>

<p>I drink at parties, or when my friends’ parents have open bottles of stuff. I do it because it’s fun. I never have too much, just enough to get myself tipsy, and I don’t do it every week. I enjoy drinking, and I think that if you do it responsibly, there’s no lasting harm done. </p>

<p>I’ve never smoked pot, and likely never will. It’s not that I’m opposed to it, but I have asthma and smoke makes me cough to the point of being sick. Even if I’m at a party where people are smoking in a bathroom or something, I still end up coughing badly.</p>

<p>^If you’re still interested in attaining a high, you could try brownies or vaporizing. Brownies/edibles would be the safest method, but I don’t recommend them for a first-timer :slight_smile: Of course, it’s a lot of effort to go through just for weed, so I understand why you wouldn’t hahah.</p>

<p>This thread is just a big circle jerk for pot users. I’m sure that if I were to go over to my buddy’s house and pick up some Jack Frost, he’d give it to me. If I were at any point in time willing to try it, maybe I would even like it. Who knows? </p>

<p>What I do know is that in a society that has for the past half-century attempted to rid itself of the wide-use of tobacco products, smoking a different drug that is [url=&lt;a href=“Growing Evidence Of Marijuana Smoke's Potential Dangers -- ScienceDaily”&gt;http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090805110741.htm&lt;/a&gt;] just as dangerous<a href=“if%20less%20addictive”>/url</a> than tobacco is not conducive toward progress on any front.</p>

<p>The whole MTV thing a few pages back seemed to have struck a chord with some, as if romping around in your best friend’s backyard and listening to Wiz while smoking some Northern Lights is any less superficial than the tripe we are exposed to via mass media “entertainment” networks…</p>

<p>And no one seemed to provide any profound evidence proving me wrong on my assertion that the rate of marijuana usage among the middle and upper class populations in countries that are on the rise is less than that of the Western countries…</p>

<p>…and here I always thought those select few proud enough to call themselves members of the CC community (the “smart kids”) were above that. How wrong I was…</p>

<p>If weed is ever made legal, I’ll make sure to invest in it. But it won’t be because I condone its usage–it’ll be because you can’t lose money when you bet on human stupidity.</p>

<p>In response to what francaisalamatt said about not foreseeing his/herself smoking in freshman year, I was the same way. </p>

<p>By sophomore year, I decided that I wanted to try it, but I promised myself I would wait until the night after my first SAT, so my brain could still be “pure” hahaha. </p>

<p>Took the SAT, the next night I smoked for the first time. I got a 2180. </p>

<p>Then, a couple months later, I took the SAT high just for fun (yes, even standardized tests are fun when you’re high lol). I got a 2280. </p>

<p>Is it because of the weed? No idea. Probably not. I just want to let you know that it didn’t hinder me at all.</p>

<p>LOL@your last sentence, Wiscongene. What made you so cynical man?</p>

<p>A) [Occasional</a> Pot Smoking Does Not Harm Lung Function Over Time, Study Says - ABC News](<a href=“Marijuana Smoke Not as Damaging as Tobacco, Says Study - ABC News”>Marijuana Smoke Not as Damaging as Tobacco, Says Study - ABC News) This is a study that went viral a couple days ago, showing that a joint a week for twenty years (or a joint a day for seven) slightly improves lung flow in smokers. It also concludes that marijuana smoking is less dangerous than tobacco. Is more research needed? Yes. But for now it seems that tobacco, and cigarettes especially, are worse for your health than marijuana.</p>

<p>B) I don’t see how spending an afternoon with good friends, good music, and good food is a superficial experience. Sounds like perfection to me :)</p>

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<p>Let people look at this the next time someone calls pot smokers out for being a<strong>h*les to non-smokers. Look at this condescension, this soap boxing (turning that into a verb, don’t care), this self-aggrandizement. See that non-smokers can be a</strong>h<em>les just as much as smokers can, that a</em><em>h</em>les aren’t specific to a single group of people but to EVERYONE.</p>

<p>^I read that article. Shoddy science if you ask me.</p>

<p>So, a pot smoker who smokes a couple joints a month has healthier lungs than a cigarette smoker who smokes a pack a day? </p>

<p>Great find…really convincing…</p>

<p>EDIT: Oh yea, and I’m a huge a-hole because I believe and can support with facts that smoking pot is stupid…</p>

<p>“Quick! Employ defamation techniques! He’s using science!”</p>

<p>No, I’m calling you an ******* for saying that you’re “above” smoking pot, as if smoking pot somehow makes you a lower person. You’re being extremely judgmental of people you have no idea about. If you see smart, responsible, capable kids smoking pot, I think it’s better to change your opinion on the activity rather than on the person.</p>

<p>Can you explain why it’s shoddy science? I’m a French major who doesn’t know much about science.</p>

<p>I would love to see facts say smoking pot is stupid</p>

<p>@Wiscongene, you’re an imbecile. There is a published list–by the tobacco industry itself, in fact–of the 500+ additives potentially used in the manufacturing of cigarettes; those include antifreeze, chlorine, and multiple other known carcinogens. How many additives are in marijuana? None. Furthermore, doctors wouldn’t utilize medical marijuana with cancer and AIDS if it were as carcinogenic as tobacco, now would they?</p>

<p>Basically everyone at my school has tried weed before (at least the guys lol. And upperclassmen). It’s really not a big deal…wish some people weren’t so judgmental. Just because you smoke doesn’t mean you’re not smart. </p>

<p>Signed, a 35 ACT, 4x 800 SAT II, 5x 5 AP occasional smoker.</p>

<p>@CrystalJ and @wizkhalifa1 </p>

<p>If you weren’t so lazy and actually checked the previous page, you would see that I provided a link that supports my claim.</p>

<p>You go ahead and throw out numbers to “prove” that you’re both smart and a smoker, because you know you’re getting away with something that is both illegal and damaging to your body. Hooray!</p>

<p>How many people do you suppose smoke pot in South Korea, Japan or other highly-technological and industrialized nations? </p>

<p>The growing trend in pot smoking is a signal to me of the death of Western culture. That’s fine though, because while we’re all out getting totally blaaaaaaazed, some other, more industrious (and I daresay, better) culture will take our place.</p>

<p>And the whole “don’t be judgmental” thing is such a platitude. So long as my life is affected by the people who partake in smoking (and it is, by definition, since I am a member of American society) I have at least enough right to pass judgment on their behaviors and speak out when I see something that is blatantly wrong.</p>

<p>Finally @ Matt: Here’s why it’s shoddy science, it’s hardly a fair comparison. From your article:</p>

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<p>Really? Please tell me how I’ve damaged myself.</p>

<p>Sincerely,</p>

<p>A 35 ACT (1 practice test, hungover), 770 Lit/760 US His. (cold and hungover), 2400 Blue Book, twice grade-skipped gentleman</p>

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<p>Yeah this is a point that I hadn’t really expanded on but agree significantly with. It’s my main qualm against legalization. A ton of people smoke pot now. Imagine if it’s legal? Yeah… we’re probably dealing with a significant ‘high’ population of America. I don’t see it as good for work or for morals, for Americans to fuzz up their senses as a common means of ‘fun’. You can argue that Alcohol does the same thing, and it does, but the question is really: do we need two? Alcohol is something that is established in our culture so much that its been such a driving force since our very beginnings (just take AP euro), i basically consider it a part of human life. Other than the lower morals (getting high as a new means of ‘fun’) it’s of course damaging to work ethic and overall perspective. We won’t be the ‘most intelligent’ and ‘most productive’ nation for very long if we have a surge in potheads all over the country, which I think legalization will provide. The only true positive is a probable economic boost from a new product, and prisons being able to save some $$ and space. </p>

<p>And to answer posters from before: </p>

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<p>This has been repeated against me, millions of times, and I won’t re-paste my social implication argument (which has been repeatedly ignored or misinterpreted). But let me ask you: Why was Michael Phelps slammed for smoking pot? Why was Barack Obama’s iffy past with pot a DANGEROUS and NEGATIVE thing? Because weed isn’t socially seen as a GOOD thing or something to be proud of. That’s why if you smoke pot, I’ll have lost some respect for you: because as I see it now, pot is something that you have no reason to do and something that less responsible / less respectable people do because they see that they have nothing else to do. You are lumping yourself with them, just as I would be lumped into the ‘slut’ group if I were a female and had uncontrolled sex. Actions are the basis for judging character. You should only do pot if you can proudly say you fulfil the following criteria: 1. you don’t care how others perceive you (true stoner culture) - keep in mind friends, teachers, and girlfriends 2. you think breaking the law and the chance of getting caught is worth losing your senses for an afternoon finding everything funny (while everyone sees you as being absurd and mindless). </p>

<p>Most of the people here seem to fulfill #2 (which I don’t think is respectable) and then are really defensive about it.</p>

<p>Okay, seems like I just posted my argument again, just in different words. I wouldn’t be surprised if certain posters read this for a 3rd time, absorb none of it, and then pull the emotional argument “don’t judge me, that’s wrong.” for the 3rd time.</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Marijuana is not as bad for you as tobacco. (btw government source)
[Cannabis</a> and tobacco smoke are not equally carcinogenic](<a href=“Cannabis and tobacco smoke are not equally carcinogenic - PMC”>Cannabis and tobacco smoke are not equally carcinogenic - PMC)</p></li>
<li><p>Smoking isn’t the only way to use marijuana, an EVEN SAFER alternative is using a vaporizer which eliminates many of the harmful toxins that cause respiratory issues.
[Evaluation</a> of a vaporizing device (Volcano®) for the pulmonary administration of tetrahydrocannabinol](<a href=“http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=17821306]Evaluation”>http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=17821306)</p></li>
<li><p>No link between marijuana and cancer
[Study</a> Finds No Link Between Marijuana Use And Lung Cancer](<a href=“http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/05/060526083353.htm]Study”>Study Finds No Link Between Marijuana Use And Lung Cancer -- ScienceDaily)</p></li>
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<p>I’m also just stating scientific studies.</p>

<p>Imagine if the majority of the population was on weed.

Hmm, maybe that’s why it’s illegal.
(Just the word “counter-productivity” would make a convincing argument, if nothing else.)</p>

<p>Granted, smoking weed in itself is not a bad thing. The potential repercussions, however, can be devastating. We all know the clich</p>