Hispanic Magazine Ranks Princeton 2nd in Nation

<p><a href="http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=32259%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=32259&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>(The official link to the magazine website is not yet available but the Yale article is correct.)</p>

<p>Each year Hispanic Magazine publishes its ranking of the top 25 colleges for Latinos. Their assessments are based on many factors including the overall quality of the education, the percentage of Latino faculty members, the strength of the financial aid program and the prevalence of Latino cultural groups on campus. This year's rankings for the top ten are as follows:</p>

<p>1 Harvard
2 Princeton
3 Amherst
4 Yale
5 U. Penn
6 Stanford
7 Pomona
8 MIT
9 Columbia
10 Dartmouth</p>

<p>Princeton's diversity programs appear to be on target.</p>

<p>(exerpt)
Joint admission-alumni effort targets socioeconomic diversity
by Karin Dienst · Posted March 20, 2006
Princeton Weekly Bulletin</p>

<p>As part of its goal to expand the recruitment of students from all socioeconomic backgrounds, the Admission Office has partnered with the Alumni Schools Committees (ASC) of Washington, D.C., and Boston in a pilot project targeting public high schools in those cities. </p>

<p>The purpose of the project is to build long-term relationships with the target schools to increase awareness of the opportunities afforded by highly selective universities and Princeton, in particular. </p>

<p>“I think that this is a fabulous program, and I am so pleased that the alumni are willing to join a partnership with us,” said Dean of Admission Janet Rapelye. “We can’t expect students to come to us if we’re not willing to go to them.”</p>

<p>Rapelye emphasized the importance of establishing relationships with the target schools rather than prematurely assessing results. “This is going to be a building project, and we already have students coming to Princeton as a result of it. It’s more about the relationships we’re creating with the schools, and having more visibility in specific areas,” she said.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S14/28/92I86/index.xml?section=topstories%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S14/28/92I86/index.xml?section=topstories&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Way to bury the lead on the story, "alto voce"!!</p>

<p>I believe you meant that friendly rejoinder for me, Byerly. Yes, though I personally turned down Harvard to attend Princeton (thus opting for the superior institution) I will give credit where credit is due. Harvard was the winner in this survey. This, however, is the Princeton board (as I'm sure you know) so the headline is appropriate. Though Harvard was first in the survey, we Princetonians can be proud of being (at least in this one case!) number two.</p>

<p>Rest easy. And congratulations to the worthy #2.</p>

<p>A tough pill for Harvard hater "alto voce" to swallow however!</p>

<p>Similarly, and amusingly, Dartmouth proudly reported its #10 ranking without ever quite saying which school topped the list!</p>

<p><a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Enews/releases/2006/03/14.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dartmouth.edu/~news/releases/2006/03/14.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I suppose you wouldn't be satisfied, Byerly, until Harvard one-up-ism becomes the center of Princeton (and Dartmouth) culture, as it is with the Elis. We're above that around here; we don't need to prove anything.</p>

<p>Byerly is still scathing because of Harvard's DROP in applicants</p>

<p>Ah so, frozen tears,,,, then what is the OP hoping to "prove" ... and what is "alto voce" etc etc trying to "prove" by chiming in?</p>

<p>Okay friends, no reason to argue. Byerly is justifiably proud of Harvard's ranking as we should be of ours.</p>

<p>But...this is not really about Princeton or Harvard at all! The real winners here are the many worthy and qualified Latino applicants to both schools (and all the others ranked highly) who are finally getting more of the respect they deserve. Three cheers for them!</p>

<p>I love how the Ivies have become more diverse, Dartmouth is 1987 was 18% minority, since 2000 its regularly over 1/3 minority. I am sure the same has occurred at Princeton.</p>

<p>Its nothing but "enlightened self interest", slipper 1234, since within 4 years or so, more than HALF the college-age pool will be "majority-minority", and furthermore, the fraction of the potential applicants coming from the lowest economic quadrant (from which a smaller fraction historically enrolls in college) will be increasing twice as fast.</p>

<p>A number of marginal private colleges - particularly those not able to reduce tuition in order to attract applicants in sufficient number - are likely to go under within the coming decade or two.</p>

<p>when you say minority, you include many asians.</p>

<p>blacks, hispanics, and native americans are still few and far between.</p>

<p>7% is such a small number! I would think in this day and age it would be at least 10%</p>

<p>haha why the hell is pomona on there?</p>

<p>Amnesia, in response to your post, and as a follow-up to the diversity issue raised in the origingal post, please note that Princeton has also received high marks from "The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education" for its success in integrating African Americans.</p>

<p>(excerpt)</p>

<p>"Ranking America's Leading Universities on Their Success in Integrating African Americans </p>

<p>JBHE has ranked America's leading universities according to their relative success in attracting, enrolling, and graduating African-American students as well as their progress in bringing black professors to their campuses. Universities are ranked according to a blending of 13 widely accepted quantitative measures of institutional racial integration. </p>

<p>For the past 10 years The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education has been collecting standard racial data bearing on the relative success of the nation's leading universities in bringing black students and faculty to their campuses. </p>

<p>The statistics we have obtained concentrate on the nation's most selective universities. These institutions tend to be role models for the nation's 3,000 four-year colleges and universities. Racial policies of these top-tier universities are likely to shape the policies of other institutions of higher education." </p>

<p>Performance Results (top 10): </p>

<ol>
<li><p>Duke University (Average Score: 90.36) </p></li>
<li><p>Emory University (Average Score: 86.62) </p></li>
<li><p>Princeton University (Average Score: 82.36) </p></li>
<li><p>Washington University (Average Score: 82.00) </p></li>
<li><p>Vanderbilt University (Average Score 81.85) </p></li>
<li><p>University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (Average Score: 81.69) </p></li>
<li><p>Georgetown University (Average Score: 80.77) </p></li>
<li><p>Harvard University (Average Score: 80.46) </p></li>
<li><p>University of Virginia (Average Score: 80.31) </p></li>
<li><p>Brown University (Average Score: 80.00)</p></li>
</ol>

<p>As always, you play up the least significant statistics, and bury more significant statistics, simply because the former are more flattering to Princeton.</p>

<p>You sneakily fail to report what this so-called "performance rate" consists of, and typically avoid giving a link in order to prevent others from learning for themselves what the "performance rate" is .... it measures improvement over past stats - so that a modest improvement over a previously-abysmal performance rates better than a consistently high performance. The JBHE has a reason for reporting this stat - to encourage improvement by laggards - but you shouldn't disguise the methodology and give a false impression as to what this stat represents.</p>

<p>The fact is, Harvard is most successful in attracting the top black applicants, with a 69% yield rate, approached only by Stanford with a 61% yield rate. Princeton, tellingly, refused to report the number, presumably because it was quite low by comparison.</p>

<p>Harvard also has the highest graduation rates in the country for blacks, and the smallest differential between the graduation rates for blacks and whites.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.jbhe.com/pdf/2005freshmensurvey.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.jbhe.com/pdf/2005freshmensurvey.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Byerly, this is a Princeton site discussing diversity AT PRINCETON. In keeping with the original post I published the rankings only (ommitting the favorable language attributed to Princeton). Your discussion of Harvard diversity issues should be brought to the Harvard site, particularly your rather distorted view of the rankings. Sorry, but like all rankings, they are what they are. </p>

<p>Note: I see that you were quick to post the contents PGrad's original post at the Harvard site. It will be interesting to see if you publish the JBHE rankings there as well.</p>

<p>The usual response from "alto voce" etc etc etc when he is caught selectively quoting from a document for which he conveniently fails to supply a supporting link, distorting its principal message while doing so.</p>

<p>There is no distortion. The rules here allow for copying only a small portion of any article. The article's lead in was copied as well as it top ten ranking. Unlike you I refrained from drawing negative conclusions from any of the text. The rankings speak for themselves.</p>

<p>Will you be posting this ranking in the diversity thread you started at the Harvard site?</p>

<p>The principal message being what, Byerly? That Harvard is #1? If that were the principal message, then why, pray tell, are there other schools reported at all?</p>

<p>The "principal message is simply this: "alto voce" etc etc etc is a dissembler.</p>

<p>Particularly when he is distorting information he is "reporting" - or reporting it greatly out of context - he chronically avoids providing a link to the source of that information.</p>

<p>To my knowledge, there is no CC policy that bars supporting links in addition to "excerpts"</p>