<p>How does the Cross hold up against other top New England schools? How do they stand againt one another? Id especially like ppl from New England to answer this question for obvious reasons?</p>
<p>BC, Tufts, Trinity are all higher prestige schools, all tougher to get into than HC. Trinity is a very selective LAC. Tufts is just under the Ivies, and BC is highly rated. There is nothing wrong with HC, it is very well regarded.</p>
<p>is trinity much tougher to get into than HC? I had the impression the gap between them was much smaller (not just in terms of selectivity)</p>
<p>it is not much tougher to get into Trinity. BC and Tufts are definitely at a notch above and are considered just below the ivies.</p>
<p>So what is HC comparable to in New England/Mid Atlantic in terms of name rec/prestige?</p>
<p>Holy Cross is unofficially reported to have received 6700+ applications this year. Based on historical numbers, expect HC's percent accepted rate to plummet to around 30-32% this year and for this number to drop even more going forward.</p>
<p>HC is very comparable to BC and the other schools named above. If all one goes off of is acceptance rate, as some posters seem to do, well then HC is "back" in the thick of things. If one goes off of quality of education and all the intangibles, then HC is amongst the best.</p>
<p>Best of luck.</p>
<p>why would it plummet this year?</p>
<p>By "plummet" I mean it has gotten a lot more difficult to be accepted from just last year alone. Typically 5,000 students apply to Holy Cross and usually 42%'ish are accepted. This year over 6700 have applied so the "acceptance rate" will correspondingly "plummet" from last years anomaly of 48% to a guestimated 30-32% this year based on typical acceptance and yield rates at Holy Cross. </p>
<p>In short the plummet comment means statistically that applicants face a markedly more competitive situation than in years past.</p>
<p>Hope this clarifies my meaning.</p>
<p>this is from the latest USNews ranking report.</p>
<p>.......................Holy Cross.....Trinity Coll.....Tufts Univ...Boston Coll<br>
Total Undergrads... 2,745 ........ 2,317 ......... 4,913 ...... 9,059<br>
Acceptance rate...... 44%...........40%.............27%..........32%<br>
SAT (25/75 perc)..1160-1350...1210-1400..1290-1470..1240-1410<br>
Minority percent........12%............16%...........28%............22%
Fraternity members......0%............20%...........15%............0%<br>
Sorority members.........0%............16%...........4%..............0%<br>
Stud's living off camp.. 12%............6%...........25%............20%</p>
<p>My wife went to Trinity.....I'd bet Holy Cross is similar in New England feel, but very different socially. She also had a friend x-fer from BC to Trinity because she liked the more intimate atmosphere.</p>
<p>If you are interested in the "what everybody else thinks" approach, check out the much-criticized "Revealed Preferences" ranking published in 2004. HC places relatively well in your group of 4, but its tough to tell why so...perhaps Trinity, lower ranked in this ranking, is viewed as a backup school, so it gets a lower preference, I don't know; Tufts is the clear leader of these 4 in this ranking:
<a href="http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/papers/1287.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/papers/1287.pdf</a></p>
<p>here are the rankings:
rank college
40 Tufts
67 Holy Cross
89 Trinity</p>
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<p>105 Boston C (didn't make the list)</p>
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<p>With the large increase 35-40% in applications to Holy Cross this year, HC's acceptance rate as mentioned should be in the low 3O's% range. Of the 4 schools, HC has the largest endowment per student and stronger alumni network. HC's alumni giving rate is 48-50% while BC's is less than 25%.</p>
<p>par-- couldn't find anything public on the large increase of HC's app's...where are you hearing that from out of curiosity?</p>
<p>I also like the alumni giving stat....a clue to how people feel about their school. From latest USNews:
HC 48%<br>
Trinity 48%
Tufts 30%
BC 25% </p>
<p>pushing 50% is pretty darned high, meaning to me that alums feel very good about their alma mater (and have the means to make regular donations).</p>
<p>Holy Cross is a very well regarded school here in New England. Very loyal alumni. What hurts it a bit is the location. I know of kids who have chosen HC over BC because of the smaller size. BC is more popular because of athletics, but I don't think the academics are any better. It all depends on the atmosphere you are looking for.</p>
<p>i always hear about the poor location...what in particular is "wrong" with worcester? arent there several colleges located there?</p>
<p>Papa Chicken, </p>
<p>The rise in applications was reported to at least one group of alumni in Boston by Frank Vellacio. Thus, while it is an unofficial number it is coming from one of the best sources on the hill.</p>
<p>I am not sure when HC plans on releasing the total number of applications figure officially.</p>
<p>aca, </p>
<p>Worcester, while Massachusett's second largest city, is a post-industrial town. This said, Worcester is enjoying a revitalization that looks to mimic that of Providence. A lot of money is being invested to achieve this goal and so far it is going well. More needs to be done, but Worcester is undergoing positive change. As to local offerings, Worcester offers a lot, if not more, than similar academic schools in challenged locations (e.g. Colgate, Dartmouth....the list goes on). Worcester's naysayers are really overdramatizing, but it clearly is not going to offer as much as Boston does... but that is something that the city is proactively looking to change.</p>
<p>Good luck and please let me know if I can be of further assistance.</p>
<p>The Wall Street Journal recently conducted a survey of current students at top-ranked business, law, and medical schools. The survey was intended to determine which undergraduate programs were most successful at "feeding" their students into the best professional programs. The results were adjusted for class size, so that small colleges and large universities could be compared on an equal basis.</p>
<p>Both Trinity (#43) and Tufts (#45) made the WSJ list of Top 50 "Feeder Schools". Holy Cross and BC did not make the list. A comment in the Tufts ranking indicates that BC was #79. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/pdfs/wsj_college_092503.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/pdfs/wsj_college_092503.pdf</a>
<a href="http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/college/feederschools.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/college/feederschools.htm</a></p>
<p>Atlantic Monthly recently had an article on which schools produced the most CEO's in Fortune 500 companies. Results-Ivies,Duke, Stanford, and among the LAC's Holy Cross, Washington&Lee, and DePauw. Also Holy Cross and Tufts probably have the best pre-med programs of the 4 schools.</p>
<p>Hands down overall - Tufts is the best school</p>
<p>I concur with Crewsader, as I do not see what's wrong with Worcester. It is definitely not the most beautiful city however for its size I rate it about the same as any large city you would visit. It is undergoing revitalization but there is a history there I would not change. For a student looking for a great liberal arts school in a larger size city then Holy Cross should be at the top of their list.</p>
<p>also notice that one of these things is not like the others...
Tufts is non-sectarian, the other three are catholic.</p>
<p>edit: my bad, trinity is'nt catholic. i realized i should've checked that one.</p>
<p>HC is well respected here, although not so much as trinity or tufts.</p>
<p>Tufts is my choice, but then again, I'm going there.</p>