Hotel School at Cornell or Wharton at Penn ???

<p>Hi there…Parents</p>

<p>I do not have any preference with hospitality(Hotel School) and business(Wharton), so</p>

<p>Which one is better for Undergraduate Program:</p>

<p>Wharton at UPenn or Hotel School at Cornell ???</p>

<p>Please comment in view of</p>

<li><p>difficulty of the course and work load (include competitiveness…cutthroat etc)</p></li>
<li><p>Campus life (including friendliness among students and helpfulness of the professors etc)</p></li>
<li><p>Job opportunity and advancement (including entrance salary, type of employers etc)</p></li>
<li><p>Chance of going to Graduate School (Ivy League0 after few year of working</p></li>
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<p>You don't have any preference? I just can't imagine that! The hospitality industry is very different from others--that's why there are special schools for it.</p>

<p>Have you ever worked in the hospitality industry? If so, are you in love with it? If the answer to either is "no" I think you know the answer.</p>

<p>are you a people person?
Do you enjoy working/serving others?</p>

<p>i would say go with Wharton, #1 business school in the world for a reason...</p>

<p>No offense, crazy4ivy, but are the non-Cornell parts of Cornell properly considered Ivy?</p>

<p>Daderoo, Yes, they are. You get the same Cornell degree from the state sponsored schools whether you graduate from Agriculture, Industrial and Labor Relations, Ecology, Hotel etc. The NY supported schools are a fabulous financial deal for in-state students and more competitive than ever for that reason.</p>

<p>wyogal...I've worked for bank serving customers directly...is this related to hospitality?</p>

<p>I know hospitality is to serve people directly, but business is also to deal with people and majority of the business sector invloves serving, so it sometime rather mix up between two.</p>

<p>I like both...and that's why I post such thread..</p>

<p>I don't think you have really thought this situation out and you are simply doing what your name states- crazy for ivy (and any one will do).</p>

<p>The Hospitality Industry </p>

<p>Since 1922, the School of Hotel Administration has been a central leader in the development of the industry—an industry that has experienced vast growth and that now ranks as the world's largest revenue industry and largest employer. Today, the industry is more than hotel and restaurant enterprises. It now includes an array of companies that specialize in airlines, cruise lines, sports arenas and entertainment/amusement centers, senior living communities, car rentals, casinos, club management, real estate development, consulting, corporate managed services, finance companies with ties to investment banking and the stock market, conference/convention planning, facility design, catering, bed-and-breakfast operations, large chain restaurants, general brand management and franchise management, accounting, law, human resources and management training, information technology, travel agencies, and more. </p>

<p>The Cornell Hotel School is delivering the education and interacting with industry leaders to ensure that the fast-paced and ever-changing opportunities of the hospitality industry are led by first-rate management experts who have a passion for the industry and a strategic understanding of how to manage their companies and provide service to the people. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.hotelschool.cornell.edu/about/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.hotelschool.cornell.edu/about/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I think that you really need to think about if you had a degree in hotel management what would you do with it . I also think you need to think about what you would do with a degree from wharton.
<a href="http://www.hotelschool.cornell.edu/about/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.hotelschool.cornell.edu/about/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>sybbie719...that is my query</p>

<p>what to do with a degree of hotel management & a degree with wharton...and that's what i've been struggling for...which one is better for me, i really don't know...both are appeal to me...choice is painful as to have one means to give up other but do not know which is do me better???</p>

<p>you know yourself the best.
seriously. no one can tell you other than yourself.</p>

<p>As far as a 'safer' degree goes I would say Business will be able to take you to a wider range of positions. However there are going to be a lot of other people out there who have Business qualifications. Hospitality management training could give you a different edge. </p>

<p>I don’t know much about Cornell's subjects but i know at a lot of hospitality schools you have to do subjects relating to food and proper table service etc as Core subjects. Some people really don’t like fussy subjects like that while others enjoy the diversity. If Cornell does go down that path that may be something to consider, that is, if you think you would enjoy those sorts of subjects or if you would prefer more pure business orientated subjects with the option of taking electives.</p>

<p>I'm still concerned about your motives and perspectives. Nothing aginst the Hotel School, which I assume is top notch, but if your motive, crazy4ivy, is to impress people with your Ivy degree, you might be disappointed with their reaction when you tell them it's Cornell Hotel School.</p>

<p>Based on previous posts, I thought you were a parent. If so, please let your kid choose. They are TOTALLY different programs.</p>

<p>Dadero.....Is Cornell Hotel School NOT belong to ivy league???? Why</p>

<p>Cornell's Hotel School has better claims to being Ivy League than Cornell's Law School or Medical School; of the three, only the Hotel School students are eligible to compete on Cornell sports teams. (The Ivy League is, after all, an athletic conference.)</p>

<p>Greybeard--good giggle!</p>

<p>Crazy: I stand by my first assessment. If you have had no exposure to working in hospitality, (meaning hotels, private country clubs, resorts, or 4 star restaurants), you do not belong at the Cornell hospitality school.</p>

<p>That's it. Period.</p>

<p>Hotel School and business school are quite different from each other. My D was interested in hotel schools and also looked into business programs at schools with no hospitality program. Many hospitality program are in the business school and have a strong business core that all business students take regardless of their focus. Other hotel programs are less business based. All hotel programs have many requirements that are all hospitality industry centered. If you weren't interested in this field they would not be useful.
Most straight business programs she looked into were geared to students who were interested in finance, investment banking or accounting. She decided after meeting with the Dean of the business school at one of her choices that she would hate to be a straight business major.
Cornell Hotel School is for students who want to work in the hospitality industry. It is not for students who want a business degree and want it from an ivy league school. I am always surprised to see students applying to Cornell Hotel School with no other hotel program on their list of schools.</p>

<p>"Cornell Hotel School is for students who want to work in the hospitality industry."</p>

<p>I don't know how true that is. Hotelies from Cornell are successful in getting jobs on Wall Street/Consulting as well, the same jobs that Wharton/other business graduates often seek.</p>

<p>I know a number of Cornell Hotel School graduates that have ended up doing very, very well on Wall Street Street and in consulting (they are now in their 40's and 50's). They all started out working for hotels, resorts or accounting firms with strong hospitality industry connections immediately post graduation. Before moving into positions less tightly tied to hospitality they all went back for graduate business degrees.</p>

<p>Elleneast: The people you mentioned graduated from the Hotel School 20-30 years ago. Although it may have been different then, now more Hotelies are seeking financial/consulting jobs immediately post-graduation. All I'm saying is if a student wants to go to Hotel School but still have his options open, that is possible at Cornell Hotel School. </p>

<p>theoretical education: business (finance, economics, etc)
practical education: hotel school at cornell</p>

<p>such as </p>

<p>theoretical education: science (math, chemistry, physics)
practical education: engineering (meche, cheme, indust e)</p>

<p>If somone wanted to become a research scientist, I would tell them that studying science or engineering are two viable paths to get there. Likewise, if someone wanted to become a financial analyst/consultant at a reputable firm, I would tell them that a theoretical business education as well as a practical education like hotel school can get them there.</p>

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I know a number of Cornell Hotel School graduates that have ended up doing very, very well on Wall Street Street and in consulting (they are now in their 40's and 50's). They all started out working for hotels, resorts or accounting firms with strong hospitality industry connections immediately post graduation. Before moving into positions less tightly tied to hospitality they all went back for graduate business degrees.

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<p>I am not trying to tell you what school to choose. I'm just relaying what my friends did to add to the overall picture as you decide. It sounds as if you really want Cornell to fit the bill. I would ask admissions many questions about post-grad placement.</p>