How are the GUYS at Berkeley, hmm?

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of California - Berkeley
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<p>I'm a girl in engineering. In general, I don't feel like there are that many attractive guys. Actually, I feel like there might be even less attractive guys than attractive girls. But let's face it, Berkeley, especially Berkeley engineering, is about the academics, not the good looks. Personally, I find intelligence a more attractive quality than good looks so Berkeley is not that bad to me, but it's all a matter of preference. I gotta say though that if you're a freshman its really hard to find a guy who is not somewhat arrogant and well...a complete jerk. </p>

<p>As for engineering guys, I think the most attractive ones I've seen were either Mechanical Engineering or Civil Engineering guys. Then again, there are a lot of them. I've heard from one of my friends (also a girl in engineering) that a good class to meet some somewhat attractive engineering guys is Engineering 10 (which mandatory for most engineers anyways). </p>

<p>In summary, I feel that most guys at Berkeley are okay looking as in not ugly but if you're looking for Abercrombie and Fitch models then I'd suggest UCSB or UCSD. (This is all my opinion btw...If you asked my roommate this question, there are few to none cute boys at Berkeley.)</p>

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<p>I forgot to mention this in my earlier post, but there are also some creepy guys at Berkeley. By now my friends and I have made it into a joke where we keep running tallies of creepy incidents that happen to us. A lot of the times the creepy guys aren't other Berkeley students, but one of my friends had a guy she talked to at a campus bus stop follow her into Walgreens and my roommate woke up to some strange guy, who looked like he might have been a graduate student, massaging her feet after she fell asleep on Memorial Glade. I'm not saying the majority or even a lot of guys at Berkeley are creepy stalker types, but those do exist.</p>

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<p>ha, well I'm not looking for abercrombie and fitch models.. that's not even my style honestly. I prefer cute guys over hot guys.. i know that may sound weird. Preference would be shaggy dark hair, and preferably light colored eyes but it doesn't matter. Toned, not buff. At least a little taller than me. (that's as far as physical goes, which of course is one of the least important factors)</p>

<p>Wowwww that is creepy ha. hope that doesn't happen to me! Do you guys live in the dorms?</p>

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<p>p.s. looking forward to meeting you guys when i get in too. ;] haha</p>

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<p>Hoooooly crap just checked this thread, LOL dill_scout, that is frightening. This is coming from a guy. I don't think that's the norm =] Anyway, having tried being an engineer very briefly, I think on average math people are more attractive ;) at least the girls.</p>

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<p>Eh. Then again, I may have been in atypical classes.</p>

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<p>So are you guys saying that there is an even ration between attractive guys and attractive girls?</p>

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<p>"Preference would be shaggy dark hair, and preferably light colored eyes but it doesn't matter. Toned, not buff. At least a little taller than me. (that's as far as physical goes, which of course is one of the least important factors)"</p>

<p>That's rather specific, but you'll definitely find a handful of guys who fit that description around. As a matter of fact, there's a guys like that who lives on the floor below me (Yes, I do live in the dorms.) though he is a bit of a player. I don't think the problem finding guys who match your description; there are bound to plenty since Berkeley has so many people and the engineering school has a ratio of 1 girl per 5 boys...The trouble is find the datable guy who matches your description.</p>

<p>As for creepy stuff, it might happen to you or it might not (though it seems to happen to most girls), but the important thing is to take it with a grain of salt and good humor. My girl friends and I discuss sort of thing all the time and try and come up with solutions. If a guy follows you, go to a public place and try to tell him to leave you alone. If he persists, tell someone close by to call the police. When going to a frat party, always go with a group of friends who will keep an eye on you and try and bring a guy friend. Think of it as a kind of education.</p>

<p>mathboy: Or maybe you find being good at math the most attractive? LOL That's why my roommate and I are watching 21 tonight.</p>

<p>ranganz: I don't know...It really depends on your definition of attractive, but I personally feel that there are more attractive girls than guys...Maybe guys feel differently since a girl's attractiveness can depend on so many more factors than a guy's.</p>

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<p>yeah.. no players for me haha. I like a guy who's honest and commited. Have some kind of faith.. a well rounded guy.. but still knows how to have some fun! ;]</p>

<p>I know that sounds way to specific.. but like i said, not lowering my standards.. tried it.</p>

<p>Ha, thanks for the tips, I will keep that in mind!! btw, this may sound silly but.. do you have to be in a frat/ sorority to go to a frat party? And are they fun, or are the guys kinda jerks/players? I always had the impression that frats were for kinda stupid cocky guys..</p>

<p>Also, 21 was a good movie. =]</p>

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<p>"mathboy: Or maybe you find being good at math the most attractive? LOL That's why my roommate and I are watching 21 tonight."</p>

<p>Maybe =] though I think I'm pretty open, and my remark kinda applied on a few levels though. Not saying this is the rule at all...and plus, Berkeley is a huge school and any generalization is bound to fail. </p>

<p>I think perhaps though, I like the personality of many math majors naturally. Not even depending on how good they are at math.</p>

<p>Yeah, that is likely the explanation...for instance, I just cannot carry on a conversation with most polisci or history majors. I can, however, talk to an English major.</p>

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<p>"I know that sounds way to specific.. but like i said, not lowering my standards.. tried it."</p>

<p>Definitely don't lower your standarads, but what I'm saying is be flexible and open-minded. From your description, it sounds like you prefer to date Caucasian guys exclusively. Well, maybe there are Asian or African American or Middle Eastern or Indian or Latino guys who meet your standards otherwise except the specifics looks wise though they can still be attractive.</p>

<p>You're welcome for the tips, and frats can be pretty complicated. For a girl, it is very easy to get into frat parties typically (not so sure about sorority parties), especially during the RUSH weeks at the beginning of the semester. After RUSH, girls can still get in fairly easily without joining but its probably better to kinow people in frats and/or sororities who can get you in. </p>

<p>I feel like 90% of frat parties are beer pong centered as in everybody is just drinking beer and vomitting. These are pretty boring and gross, and the guys here can get pretty mean when they're drunk. As for the remaining 10%, well...You've got frat parties like FIJI ones, which can be pretty sketchy. In the last FIJI party, they hired strippers, and my upperclassmen floormates told me that quite a few rapes have occurred at FIJI. </p>

<p>Then there are frat parties with dancing (and sometimes drug use) which can be fun if you just go there with friends just to dance. The guys at these frat parties can get a little...inappropriate, which is why you should go with friends who can keep an eye on you and help you out. These guys can be players and jerks or the shy, studious type letting loose or just guys who are there to dance with girls and have fun. It's also a good thing that the room is dark most of the time because seeing who you're actually dancing with can ruin the fun.</p>

<p>The point is to go to frat parties (with dancing) to have fun with your friends and relax after a week of grueling academics. Frats are not just for "kinda stupid cocky guys" though there will be no lack of them. You can find all sorts of people who to frats, some of whom just go for the college experience. Frats, however, are definitely not the place to look for a relationships. A hookup (beware of STDS and other sketchy things) but people are typically there to look for one night of fun, nothing longterm. </p>

<p>Also, as a sidenote, if you do end up living in the dorms, it's probably not a good idea to have a serious relationship with a floormate, unless you're absolutely sure he's the one. There may be way too much drama otherwise.</p>

<p>Yes, we're watching 21 for Jim Sturgess with a suit on (and with it off ;) ) while pretending to be a math genius. It's too bad a Jim Sturgess look alike who really is a math genius doesn't attend Berkeley.</p>

<p>mathboy: Hmmm...That's an interesting point. Though it's really difficult to have a polisci or history conversation without stepping on someone's toes, especially modern stuff. Maturity might also have to do with it. I really can't stand conversations with guys who only like talking about themselves.</p>

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<p>aha okay.. sounds like mosttt frat parties is not anything i'd be interested in. The dancing ones I'd be down for.. how do you know what kind of party it is before you get there?</p>

<p>Have any parties been broken up and people have gotten arrested? I don't do drugs.. and i don't plan to, but if people do that- their choice. I just don't want to get in trouble for being around that crap.. Are there any parties where you can just dance and maybe be a little alcohol? (also, how's often do girls get their drinks spiked? =/)</p>

<p>haha that would be nice if there was a guy who looked like that in the math department.
Oh, definitely- I'm open-minded. Like I said, it's one of the least important factors. That's just my preference. </p>

<p>As for the conversations with someone in pol sci or history.. i completely agree, they should be more open-minded in those fields in general. It's terrible to have a conversation with someone who's too self absorbed into his own opinions.</p>

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<p>Btw, there's a GSI for math 16A/B that looks somewhat like Jimmy</p>

<p>I wonder how beautiful you people are</p>

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<p>I don't claim to be beautiful, but I've been told so many times.</p>

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<p>above: By whom? Your parents?</p>

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<p>Hahaha OK I am not against all polisci + history majors or anything. They don't even necessarily have to TALK about their subjects. I notice that subtly though, my personality somehow jives well with that of certain majors. And that doesn't necessarily have to do with how mathematical they are! </p>

<p>Even within mathematics, there are specific fields which are associated with certain personalities, and surprisingly the correlations there are quite incredible. </p>

<p>I tend to enjoy conversations with people who naturally overthink things, + quirky sense of humor, for instance. </p>

<p>"I really can't stand conversations with guys who only like talking about themselves."</p>

<p>Likewise with girls on my end, funnily enough ;) </p>

<p>"Btw, there's a GSI for math 16A/B that looks somewhat like Jimmy"</p>

<p>I dunno who Jimmy is, but who is this GSI? If a first or second year, I might know him.</p>

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<p>by many guys, not just my parents, thank you.</p>

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<p>^ lol. </p>

<p>well, let me tell you. i'm a science major and i've seen very few attractive guys. HOWEVER, my roommates rave about seeing hot guys everywhere and they're architect majors. they've brought home a few and they are significantly better looking and stylish. of course, i'm generalizing here. </p>

<p>but i'm thankful because then there aren't any distractions. boys do not fit into my schedule. </p>

<p>but again, beauty is subjective (?) so i think we should just all hold onto our inner beauty and hope to find our counterparts during or after our years in berkeley. lol.</p>

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<p>It's funny how beauty works...In ancient Greece, a guy with smaller, more proportional genitalia is seen as more beautiful than one with oversized genitalia. In today's world, everyone seems to think that bigger is better; beauty isn't even a consideration in this matter anymore. I suppose a geometric definition of beauty would be based on symmetry and proportion. In that case, Barbie is ugly as hell yet I'm pretty sure most little girls think of Barbie as their ideal of beauty. I'm not doing a good job of explaining my thoughts (which are running all of the place right now), but what I'm trying to say is that beauty is really what you make of it. If you really want to be surrounded by ugly people, then you'll probably think everyone around is ugly (except you). Beauty is really a combination of attitude towards your environment and certain innate standards you probably have.</p>

<p>Blackroses:</p>

<p>Well, telling frat parties apart isn't really that hard. The beer pong frats always have lights on, loud drunken laughter, and the faint smell of alcohol and vomit near the premise (depends on how many rounds of beer pong or if other drinks are being offered). The dance parties typically take place in a basement or somewhere dark and typically the entire house is somewhat dim/dark. It smells like sweat instead of beer and vomit, and following a path of girls in skimpy dresses could also take you there. Thursday nights, I am told, are the best nights for these parties since high schoolers can't try to get in.</p>

<p>I've never been at a party where the police came and people got arrested, but I know that it does happen every once in a while. My friend related an incident where the police raided the party she was at (there was marijuana use going on at that party) and she had to hide in the bathroom for 15 minutes. Not sure if anyone got arrested though. It's hard to say before you go to a party if drug use will occur unless you know the people in the frat hosting the party will not have drugs. That's why it's good to have upperclassmen friends with frat connections who can take you and your other friends to a relatively safe frat party. I don't know about girls specifically having their spiked, but it's best if you get your drinks from the source such as the keg, the bottle, etc. Just this weekend, one of my guy friends had something to drink from a frat party that I hypothesize was spiked with LSD, which has no taste or smell. It's definitely a good idea to have one friend who remains sober at these things just in case. </p>

<p>FellowCCViewer: That's interesting...Who is he?</p>

<p>mathboy: </p>

<p>I'd think a decent history major can overthink a lot of things. I'm not a history major but I probably overthink history all the time simply cause history has so many underlying variables that affect its course. For example, if a certain art school in Vienna had accepted Hitler, would WWII still have occurred? (I think yes.) I know it's a what if, but its still an interesting thought. But besides that, I think there are people with many different sorts of personalities in all majors so I'm not sure categorizing by major is quite accurate.</p>

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<p>"I think there are people with many different sorts of personalities in all majors so I'm not sure categorizing by major is quite accurate."</p>

<p>Well sure =] I mean, I should make it clear that I'm speaking to the trend I see. I am always open for new people to dazzle me with their personalities. It is, however, some reflection of personality that someone chooses to devote his/her time to a certain major quite often. </p>

<p>A history major can overthink things as much as the next person, but I have really objectively observed that the personalities generally don't work as well with my own. </p>

<p>Not to go into it too much, but I naturally like: engineers [not necessarily overinterested in the academic nature of their majors, and like to talk about quite a few things], mathematicians who're actually into their majors but again talk about other things and are somewhat light-hearted, and English + philosophy types. </p>

<p>It's probably pretty subtle why history majors don't work on average...but the best stab I can take is that 2/3 of the majors above deal with some level of abstraction, and the personality associated with that often is cool to me. don't necessarily have to TALK about abstract topics always, but the ability to enjoy them is good. </p>

<p>LOL, don't eat me alive here, I'm just stating trends. I'm willing to meet anyone really! </p>

<p>Don't you all have any preferences on this matter?!</p>