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<p>Not for us. We’d be forced to accept medicare.</p>
<p>This Health Bill is the single worst piece of legislation i have heard of in 8 years since the Clinton Hope College scholarship.</p>
<p>For those of you in Econ, lets consider this: Obama wants to reduce consolidate spending while INCREASING demand of healthcare with CONSTANT supply of doctors. You just tell me the economic feasibility of that.</p>
<p>Secondly, this bill marks one of the single largest increase in taxes for the upper middle class in history: the 3.8% medicare will apply to capital gains. This is unprecedented and will cripple investment, hurting small businesses especially.</p>
<p>Furthermore, Obama is going to screw Physician payments. The 2010 Medicare plans for cuts in ALL SPECIALTIES when one accounts for medical inflation (assume its 4%/year, which is probably lower than actual). That accounts for around a 30% cut in Radiology, Oncology, Audiology. Heck, even Primary Care’s will see a 10% cut. I’d suspect our quality of health care will go way down as our best and brightest become investment bankers in lieu of doctors. Oh, and did i mention longer wait times?</p>
<p>Lastly, the penalty for health care is flawed. The average health care for a family costs 23000 a year for Employees and Employers. The Penalty for going “naked” is 2% of income. That means, the average family can save $21800 by not buying insurance and simply do so when they become sick (can’t be deny coverage at any time). This is an adverse selection nightmare and will drive insurance companies out of business, which is contrary to public belief not a good thing.</p>
<p>Ultimately, i believe insurance companies will go bankrupt and government will take over health care. This would be catastrophic. Just think of our other services provided by the government. I’d suspect by 2050, our healthcare system is gonna look a lot like our DMV.</p>
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<p>Your last line doesn’t really reflect the situation. Because of the new regulations on what a health care plan has to offer, someone who only wants to get **catastrophe coverage<a href=“like…%20when%20you%20break%20a%20leg%20or%20something%20and%20have%20to%20go%20to%20the%20ER%20:P”>/b</a> CAN’T only get that, they have to get a comprehensive plan. </p>
<p>Basically the idea is that a lot of young people feel like they’re healthy enough to go without coverage or get only catastrophe coverage, and they need to change that. Because if young people and healthy people don’t buy insurance (besides catastrophe coverage), then they can’t afford to cover at-risk groups (because they do that with the surplus money from healthy people, who generally pay more in than they get out).</p>
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<p>IDK where you read that, but yes, the bill as passed requires all American citizen to have full coverage by 2014, or pay a fine. Partial coverage isn’t an option any more. All insurance plans will be required to cover everything, including psyciatric services and dental care… And Abortions, unless Obabma actually carries through on his promise in any meaningful way, which I doubt will happen.</p>
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<p>Exactly. The insurance campanies have been given a license to rob us.</p>
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<p>Didn’t he just affirm that he’d sign the executive order? So no coverage for abortions except for rape, incest, and significant risk of death to the woman? Imo, that’s ridiculous. If they’re gonna cover dental care, they should cover abortions for heaven’s sake, having a child generally has many more health (and life) implications than rotten teeth. I understand that people think women have personal responsibility to not get pregnant, but 1) no birth control is 100% successful and 2) a lot of young women and teens have been taught that birth control is wrong 3) access to birth control is often difficult.</p>
<p>^Some of us believe that that baby is a human being. Nobody says teeth are people (I hope). That is the difference between the two.</p>
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<p>^I think most of us believe that a baby is a human being. We just defer on what we call a baby.</p>
<p>^Obviously. I’m talking about that baby, what some people choose to call an embryo, and then chose not to grant humanity to said creature.</p>
<p>For the sake of sanity, do NOT let MM turn this into ANOTHER abortion thread. MM, stop. Everyone else, ignore it and stick to the original topic of the thread.</p>
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<p>So abstinence is a thing of the past, then?</p>
<p>I’m still confused why people are shouting “Obama did this and this and he’s the Antichrist omg.” when Congress passed the bill. They have much more power than the President.</p>
<p>“I’m still confused why people are shouting “Obama did this and this and he’s the Antichrist omg.” when Congress passed the bill. They have much more power than the President.”</p>
<p>um, because people are stupid? ;)</p>
<p>“For the sake of sanity, do NOT let MM turn this into ANOTHER abortion thread.”</p>
<p>LOL, seconded.</p>
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<p>Don’t worry, I don’t intend to get into that debate here. I was just pointing out that some of us see the abortion issue very differently than things like dental care. I think you can respect that, even if you disagree.</p>
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<p>1/3 of my office got laid-off on Monday.</p>
<p>^ That’s interesting considering that the bill wasn’t signed then and a majority of the bill doesn’t even go into affect for another 6 months. So I highly doubt that it is a result of the bill.</p>
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Oh yeah? Well, I was hired at Goldman Sachs with a full Associate’s salary. In fact, they’re starting construction to accommodate 30,000 more people that have been hired thanks to this bill.</p>
<p>Ahh, the Internet, where imagination can be reality.</p>
<p>^ I’m not sure he/she is lying. He/she has said before that he/she worked for an insurance agency. But I think that what he/she is saying is bull or not a cause of the bill.</p>
<p>Why would someone working in the Insurance Industry start an account on CC with the name FutureActuary? Unless they found a job in the 43 days since making that account? At a place that just laid off a third of the staff?</p>
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<p>On Monday everyone knew the bill would be passed, so it could very well be cause and effect. But yes, I doubt it’s directly related.</p>