<p>I am applying to USP for Medicine. </p>
<p>How competative is that?</p>
<p>Any statistics?</p>
<p>Also, these seem to be the undergraduate requirements to continue to be in the program.</p>
<p>MCAT 36....is that hard? (I have no idea how MCAT score works)
3.8 GPA sounds challenging.</p>
<p>Requirements:
maintain a 3.8 grade point average (GPA) as an undergraduate student
complete an application to the School of Medicine the year before entering medical studies
achieve a total score of 36 on the Medical College Admission Test (MCAT)
interview with the School of Medicines Committee on Admissions.</p>
<p>when i visited washington a month ago someone told me there a 6 slots in the medical USP overall so I'd say pretty competitive.</p>
<p>6? That is close to impossible.</p>
<p>that's the number I was told but it could be wrong. The person that told me this was a kind of student ambassador at an interview session, however she wasn't in USP but I do know she stressed how difficult it is to be accepted.</p>
<p>As a recent graduate of WashU (and now a MedSchool student, though not at WashU [I chose my state MedSchool, which gave me a free ride]), I can tell you more about the program. </p>
<p>Is the program competitive for high school students to get accepted? Yes. Probably more competitive than general admissions into WashU. And remember, WashU only accepts ~20% of all applicants. It's hard as is.</p>
<p>My thoughts on the USP for MedSchool: It's a ploy by the admissions office to attract Harvard/Yale/etc. people to WashU. Remember that a 36 on the MCAT is really not easy. It's very difficult, actually (only the top ~3% of MCATers get that score or higher). A 3.8 GPA is not easy, but if you're a liberal arts major, you can get pretty high grades since there is grade inflation in some of the disciplines (e.g., women's studies, religious studies).</p>
<p>My advice: Don't be fooled by the offer. The 36/3.8 criteria is very difficult to obtain. You'll likely see yourself as someone who went to WashU, but did not get into it's medical school because you couldn't get the 36/3.8 requirement. Don't be fooled thinking it's free admission to WashU Med. With that said, I do think that WashU is a great undergraduate university. If you can see yourself there for four years, give it a go. Who knows? You may even get the 36/3.8 and you'll be set.</p>
<p>Jason</p>
<p>Thanks Jason, that was one of the best advice I have received.</p>
<p>what is MCAT out of ? (In other words, what is the perfect score?)</p>
<p>Regarding GPA and MCAT,
Let us put it this way. If I had 3.8 GPA from a top school (eg, Chicago, Johns Hopkins, MIT, Stanford) and 36 MCAT, do I stand a chance getting into top 3 med school in the country, ie Harvard, WUSTL, and Johns Hopkins?</p>
<p>Is USP really an advantage to get into med school?</p>
<p>Perfect score on MCAT is 45, but nobody gets that (you can count the number who get 45s every year on a single hand).</p>
<p>I don't know if USP is a huge advantage, but it really can't hurt.</p>
<p>If you get into the program AND you can see yourself being successful at WashU, then I say you take the offer.</p>
<p>Medical school admissions (especially at those GPA/MCAT scores) is really a crapshoot. A 3.8/36 will not guarantee you admission into the top three medical schools (regardless of where you did undergrad). A 4.0/40+ will not guarantee it either. Getting into medical school is hard work (only about half of all APPLICANTS get in). My WashU freshman class had ~800 people who identified themselves as pre-med. Only ~130 applied, and most (85+%) got into medical school.</p>
<p>In terms of a pre-medical education, WashU is good (even though it is very competitive). There are numerous abundant research opportunities (WashU is known as one of the top biomedical research institutions in the country). If you do end up going to WashU, take part in research. You'll be doing yourself an injustice if you don't take advantage of it at WashU. After all, that's the entire point of a research university.</p>
<p>Jason</p>