How Difficult is Cooper Union?

<p>I guess my legacy lives on - thank you for whoever used my name here - ??</p>

<p>Hello college confidential, i am the “Julie” who “passed out.” I’m not sure how I got to be famous enough for college confidential but since I am let me make some corrections-</p>

<p>As I said i didnt pass out nor was i actually hospitalized, so don’t you all worry too much that Cooper seems so impossible and damaging to your health. I had a stress related ‘condition,’ but I don’t think stress in a high intensity school is so uncommon :stuck_out_tongue: In any case, yes Cooper is tough, especially soph year when you start getting classes that you didn’t see in H.S. and the course load becomes twice that of a “normal” college. It certainly is not a school for everyone, and there are sacrifices you have to make. If your goal is to develop socially then don’t go to a school that <em>gives</em> you 25k/yr and in return expects you to be serious and committed to your education. Dating may not be what it is if you are in NYU a few streets away, but it is not non-existant…and if you want more potential dates there are several million people within a half an hour in any direction so let’s not complain too much about this. Time to date is another story, but again, its a sacrifice for your education, and you should know this when you choose the school.</p>

<p>Yes, living in NYC is costly but that is why you live with roommates. (Do I have to repeat that you get a free education from one of the top engineering schools in the country?)</p>

<p>My GPA was not “stunnigly high.” Plenty of my classmates had higher GPA’s than I did upon graduating so it is not impossible to do well if you have committment and can balance your life.</p>

<p>To me, it was certainly worth it despite the struggles through some crazy classes and assignments. In the end you all suffer together and learn that to survive you need each other. For the most part the school is not competitive for this reason, I think. There were so many unique and bizarre people and I thought it was great that you can say something like ‘you know that guy with the nose’ and someone would know who you’re talking about. </p>

<p>As I said its not a place for everyone, but its not as bad as its been made out to be. I had a great 4 years and now have a damn good job. Take care everyone & good luck!!</p>

<p>Kotchian123 is a little out of date.</p>

<p>Im a senior chemE at Cooper and my assessment is pretty much in line with everyone else’s, but I would like to add a few points of my own. First in respect to Kotchian123’s point, when I first came to Cooper the ChemE department was a little weak for a variety of reasons; an understaffed department -One of the main prof. had lung cancer (passed away two years ago) and another Prof also fell ill and had other family issues, among other things. Last year the department went on a bit of a hiring binge, and I would now say it is back to being one of the best departments in the school, and one of the top programs in the country.</p>

<p>Cooper is distinct and occupies an interesting niche. Were not really a research university, and our facilities are adequate but not in line with other big name schools. What makes Cooper awesome and the reason why so many grad schools and employers go after cooper alumns is the people. Most of the people (including profs) are at cooper because they want to be there. Davis, an excellent new chem E prof, specifically said he came to cooper because he wanted to focus on teaching and many of the profs share that attitude. If you are a student at cooper, you genuinely want to learn, and you will have educational opportunities that you wont be able to get elsewhere. Youll come out knowing more and with more experience than people at many other schools, especially if you take electives and make use of the professors and other students.</p>

<p>The social life at cooper is whatever you make of it. You are in NYC, and if you want to spend 4 years in the computer center you can, and while the work load def gets demanding at points, Ive always maintained a decent life outside of school. Dating gets a bit interesting. In the olden days, engineers were in their building, and artists in theirs and on a day to day basis the ratio of guys to girls in a class was usually very very slanted in one direction. Now we’re all one big happy family in the new building, so things are evened out a little bit, but people tend to still be a little clicky within their schools. Alot of people also are very integrated into the nyu community and go to nyu events, so that helps, but really, you’re in NYC and if you want to go out and meet people theres nothing stopping you.</p>

<p>I thought Cooper union was completely free. Is it not? Please let me know!!!</p>

<p>Everyone who is admitted to The Cooper Union gets a full tuition scholarship. Not included in the tuition, is an approximately $500 student/lab/studio fee. Also tuition does not include rent or cost of living, both of which can be expensive in NYC. But the tuition itself is free.</p>

<p>“So, I am wondering what kind of college experience will he get at Cooper? I know everyone talks about how difficult the program is.” “When I read comments here on CC that make the school sound like some kind of boot camp, it does worry me.”</p>

<p>Cooper Union isn’t “difficult” at all. I graduated in 2003. Many of my classmates were slackers and they got through just fine.
Cooper isn’t full of teachers with whips demanding their students to slave for them, despite what outsiders might imagine. Tests and courses at Cooper are no more difficult than at other engineering schools.</p>

<p>What really seperates Cooper is the “course load and track.” Cooper would force you to take more advanced courses and electrives early on. In my first semester at Cooper, I had to take physical chemistry. Most engineering colleges would demand that course in the sophomore year. Another example is that I was forced to take Electrical Machinery, Engineering ElectroMagnetics, and VLSI (I was an Electrical Engineer). Most schools would only demand you to take 1 to 2 of these as electives. The stress from so many classes is what causes many students to quit.</p>

<p>If there are classes where Cooper Union are “more difficult” than other schools, it is lab class. Cooper students have 8 semester of lab. Most schools only demand 4 semesters of lab. Furthermore, Cooper students are asked to design and invent things very early on.</p>

<p>Now about money…</p>

<p>I want to stress once again that Cooper Union is a full tuition scholarship. I also want to stress that after freshman year you can’t live in the dorm and you need to find an apartment. Furthermore, living in NY (especially Manhatten) is really expensive. Do not think that you will be able to find a job that will cover all your living expenses while you are attending school. I know some guy who tried that and not only were all of his savings were wiped out but he also flunked out of school because he neglected his studies because of his job.
If your parents can’t send you money during the school year, you absolutely need to get financial aid and you will need to find a small job on the side. Most jobs in the school are very lenient towards students and allow them to do school work while on the job. The financial aid will cover 70 to 90% of your expenses while your job will ensure that you do not run out of money. Please remember that after graduation, you will need to pay back that financial aid and there is interest.</p>

<p>Hey! I wanted to ask you if Cooper Union gives financial aid to international students?</p>

<p>Yep scholarship tuition if you get in. But a friend told me that they might start charging tuition in later years 'cause they’re running outta money. </p>

<p>In terms of admissions, art and architecture is much more competitive.</p>

<p>Source: [Cheap</a> and Free Colleges in New York City: Pace, Macaulay, Cooper Union](<a href=“http://puddingicecream.hubpages.com/hub/Cheap-College-in-an-Expensive-City]Cheap”>http://puddingicecream.hubpages.com/hub/Cheap-College-in-an-Expensive-City)</p>

<p>Our class of 2016 might be the last class to benefit from free tuition :(</p>

<p>My brother went to Cooper Union, then got into an Ivy graduate school, and today is a multi-millionaire.</p>

<p>I highly recommend the school.</p>

<p>However, it is not your typical college experience. He lived in a rat-hole of an apartment, and worked like a dog.</p>

<p>And the neighborhood is still very sketchy. I was there recently.</p>

<p>So I would not go there if I was expecting to have any sort of fun. Or have a college life of frat parties, and football games.</p>

<p>I would say that it is indeed akin to boot camp.</p>

<p>But as they say, no pain, no gain.</p>

<p>Is the food at the CU cafeteria decent? Because it seems easier than to run out and grab food.
Of course, I live in California, so I don’t know anything about New York XD</p>

<p>Charging tuition will be a last resort, and everybody is against it, including the administration. However, if that’s what required to stay alive, then they’ll do it.</p>

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<p>Perhaps you and I come from different backgrounds and are used to different things, but I think the neighborhood is perfectly fine. I don’t feel uncomfortable walking through by myself at any time of the night… midnight… 3am… etc.</p>

<p>YuhikoJay Cooper does not offer a meal plan. Freshman dorms have kitchenettes and you can cook your own food or get takeout; there are tons of places only steps away from your dorm.</p>

<p>They do have a coffee shop in the academic building.</p>

<p>rualum: yeah I knew cooper union didn’t have a meal plan :frowning:
didn’t cooper union stop the stoves from working or something? because of safety issues?
so the “cafeteria” is actually just a coffee shop… oh well i guess i have some exploring to do next year XD</p>

<p>Yes, we were told that the cooktops work, but the ovens have been disabled.</p>

<p>The coffee shop sells snacks and sandwiches I think, but it isn’t huge. It’s right in the (newer) building, at least.</p>

<p>OH. So the OVENS have been disabled… which means I can’t bake but I can boil water and cook noodles?
Sweet :slight_smile: thanks rualum :)</p>

<p>hi, I am applying for cooper union’s architecture program, and I will be receiving the long-awaited hometest at the end of January. I was wondering if I could possibly talk to some cooper union architecture alumni who could give some feedback regarding the hometest, or better yet, some examples.</p>

<p>Thank you! :)</p>

<p>I am someone who is looking into applying to cooper for fine arts, however i can not say that I’m even slightly confident on how i would do, as far as intelligence goes. In high school i never failed any classes, but was never in the top of my class, never made honor roll even once, and always struggled to maintain C’s and B’s. I’m let to believe i suffer from ADD as my attention span during lectures is very minimal if at all existent. So i am going to see about getting a prescription to ADD Meds to help with this but i have never been tested so i don’t even know that i have it i guess, and even if i do get the meds…what if thats not the cause of my bad grades in the first place?
I guess what I’m asking is…If i was lucky enough to get accepted to cooper based on my portfolio alone, is it likely that i would flunk out and just waste a whole year or two of my time plus living cost?</p>

<p>I appreciate any helpful and or hurtful advice.
Thanks guys.</p>

<p>Apparently cooper union barely looks at grades and sats for art applicants… mostly they accept students based on pure talent and creativity.</p>

<p>I am wondering if I can send out hometest by DHL other than FedEx, UPS, USPS? Because the hometest procedures says “All Materialsmust be submitted in one (and only one) of the following boxes: (If youmake your own box you will be disqualified.)
Ready Post: 17.625” x 12.25" x 3"
FedEx: Large Box - 17.88" x 12.38" x 3"
UPS: Large - 18" x 13" x 3"
USPS: Regional Rate Box B - Large Size Loading
16 1/4" x 14 1/2" x 3" -Maximumweight of 20 lbs</p>

<p>The thing is I sent out mine by DHL, which is not the one on the list. I had wrote an email to ask about it. But they haven’t reply yet. Anyone knows if send out by other shipping company will be disqualified or not?</p>

<p>…: (</p>

<p>There must have been a reason that the CU clearly states the shipping methods and the type of box on their instruction.</p>