<p>Just wondering, since I'm Asian, how big of a deal in the admissions process is it to be Asian? I've heard from some people on this site that if you're Asian, your SAT score should be deducted by 200 points to be equal to that of a white while if you're black, your SAT score should be increased by 200 points to be equal to that of a white. I know this sounds very ridiculous but I can't help but worry that something along the lines of that may be true. Your thoughts?</p>
<p>Probably not too disadvantageous, seeing as Asians have a strong presence in just about every school worth its salt. Ivies, “public Ivies”, Stanford, etc.</p>
<p>And, of course, the UC schools are majority Asian.</p>
<p>With all this talk about diversity, it’s precisely because Asians are a majority that we (or at least I) fear that we’re/I’m disadvantaged.</p>
<p>Its a disadvantage. I don’t think that any kind of diversity status can contribute as much as 200 points to an SAT score, but it does indeed create a double standard. Your asian heritage will undoubtedly create difficulties for you. Perhaps you would benefit from schools that claim to be “color blind” in their admissions. I’m pretty sure the UC schools are this way, but don’t quote me.</p>
<p>What about at a white dominant liberal arts school?</p>
<p>What I’ve heard is that Asians do have a disadvantage at prestigious universities where Asian’s already make up almost 15 or 20% of the population.
At similarly prestigious, smaller, possibly more rural schools that are not nearly as diverse, Asians are treated similarly to other minorities.</p>
<p>Adding on to what burchmatt said, the UC schools have ridiculous numbers in terms of Asian populations. Some schools are almost 60, 70% Asian.
This leads some to believe that other private, non color-blind universities discriminate against Asians, and have some sort of limit on how many Asians they can accept.</p>
<p>A study done suggested that it was equivalent to about 50 SAT points deducted at prestigious schools. So, it’s not as bad as 200. However, I think black does add 150 or 200 points.</p>
<p>Regardless of the disadvantage, I will still check “Asian” on my application. I’m a proud Asian at that! :-)</p>
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<p>Irvine and San Diego are the UCs with the highest Asian percentage, but that is 46% and 43% respectively, not 60% or 70%, for the 2008-2009 entering freshman class. Even if all of the “unknown” were Asian, that would bring the percentage to 51% and 50% respectively.</p>
<p>I think the disadvantage comes from cultural confusion. Asian cultures emphasize hard work, discipline, and diligence. Meanwhile, American culture emphasizes innovation and charisma. US colleges do value hard work and diligence, but they are also looking for creativity/diversity/originality/leadership.</p>
<p>Just look at the Jewish population. They have a larger presence than asians at the Ivies. Maybe they are producing more compelling applications. </p>
<p>Many of the asian CC users who claim to have been “discriminated” against have a yawn-inducing laundry list of EC’s. Furthermore, the neurotic need to get into college that some asian parents instill in their children is definitely detrimental. Gearing your kid’s entire personality toward getting into college is exactly the opposite of what will get him into Yale.</p>
<p>UCs are not supposed to race differentiate for acceptances. This was ruled so in a case in the 1970s. </p>
<p>There is an Asian ceiling around 18-20%. It’s hard to get in to Ivies as an Asian because you are competing directly with all other Asians. </p>
<p>In the end, Yes. It is a disadvantage. But still apply because you could be get in.</p>
<p>the disadvantage is really exaggerated on CC…</p>
<p>This is from the parents forum…</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1155321-colleges-racist.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1155321-colleges-racist.html</a></p>
<p>I’d imagine that the disadvantage would not be nearly as great if the school has a <10% Asian population or does not use Affirmative Action.</p>
<p>It’s not the Asian part that would be the greatest disadvantage; it’s living in New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco or, any other major port of entry into in the United States. The states where those cities are located are overrepresented in the private elite universities and LACs as a whole. If you want to get into Stanford nowadays, your best bet is to move to Alabama.</p>
<p>^I agree. If you live in a State that has a disproportionate of amount of Asians, you will be at a disadvantage. On the other hand, if you’re an Asian in like Louisiana or some other southern state with a smaller Asian population, you have a better chance of getting in.</p>
<p>we are very disadvantaged, im a Sri Lankan born here in the usa. Im betting many of you have never even heard of a sri lankan. lol, but here we are, some of us asians who are the true minority losing preference to the glut of blacks, hispanics, etc.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t say asians are always disadvantaged, but they definitely need to work on ECs which are important there is more to being a student than grades and test scores. I will admit it is tougher for an asian person to get into a unviersity, but when you think about it, at least for UCs here in california, they are making up the majority. Colleges really don’t want to discriminate, but they like to keep a diverse group of people so people generally feel comfortable. The university also wants to feel like it is reaching out to others and not just one group of people. Ultimately, asians are a little bit disadvantaged, but there are other people who are too they need a little assistance.</p>
<p>are pakistanis and indians considered “Asians”?
Athavan- I have! haha</p>
<p>is it true that their are more jews then asians in the ivies, if its true it makes me proud of my fellow jews.
did you now 73% of the jewish population of israel obtain PHD’s, more then any other country’s percent</p>