How do Asian kids get high scores on SATI English?

<p>Have you people considered the fact that Asian immigrants in America represent the cream of the Asian crop in most cases? Its really difficult to immigrate to the US, w/ current immigration laws and almost impossible to immigrate illegally. The ones given preference are highly educated workers, who usually come here on Work Visas, then apply for green cards. So basically the average Asian in America comes from an educated background, (ie parents, and grandparents hold degrees), which explains the higher percentage in asians holding college degrees. Its not always about working harder, its more about what their backgrounds are and what they concentrate in. Whats to say that a 4.0 student works any harder than a jock right? (Well they probably do but hypothetically the reverse is possible as well)</p>

<p>I should have added that you probably don't want to generalize Asians as a single block. Lingua Franca of India is English. Most Indians, atleast the urban ones, are bilingual from a very early age. Same is probably true to a lesser extent for people from Hong Kong, the phillipines, Singapore, etc. </p>

<p>Also basic intelligence, attributed again to educated backgrounds, probably has something to do with it. I remember reading about how Koreans were winning Scrabble tournaments in America by memorizing 10,000 + english words, but lacked the skills to actually speak the language by putting words together.</p>

<p>because parents drill their children to death; kids don't have an option of below 760 in Critical Reading. it's just how it is; asia likes to grill their kids even though they've reached their limit.</p>

<p>it's no doubt asian kids are gonna do better than american ones.
sat's all about "perfect" grammar anyways.
you think a relaxed, american-born kid who speaks colliquially in speech and writing will do better than asian kids who believe studying english to get 800 is their ultimate goal in life?</p>

<p>Asians are really not smarter.. (I'm Asian), they just have more pressure to deal with.</p>

<p>770 came to the US in 2004 after going to Korean schools. Really just do it. Read and do well in ur english class.</p>

<p>Asian with 680 CR and 710 W (10 essay)</p>

<p>Since English is easily my worst subject (followed by English and then English), I'd say I did pretty darn good even if some of you all are 80 points above me or w/e</p>

<p>yea i agree..asians just have more pressure to succeed from their demanding parents. (me being one of those victim asians lol)</p>

<p>If you came before teenage, it would be pretty easy for you to get something like 650+, but if you not, then it would be much harder to get the same.</p>

<p>I got a 400CR. I'm a dumb****.</p>

<p>there are so many things wrong with this question, im not going to even bother to say them</p>

<p>you maybe want to post the question "how do fobs get high scores on sat I english"?</p>

<p>why would you just use "asians"?
thats a generalization, and you sir, or ma'am... are probably going to fail badly because of your lack of knowledge on that</p>

<p>I read The Economist. Really does help.</p>

<p>"Have you people considered the fact that Asian immigrants in America represent the cream of the Asian crop in most cases? Its really difficult to immigrate to the US, w/ current immigration laws and almost impossible to immigrate illegally. The ones given preference are highly educated workers, who usually come here on Work Visas, then apply for green cards. So basically the average Asian in America comes from an educated background, (ie parents, and grandparents hold degrees), which explains the higher percentage in asians holding college degrees. Its not always about working harder, its more about what their backgrounds are and what they concentrate in. Whats to say that a 4.0 student works any harder than a jock right? (Well they probably do but hypothetically the reverse is possible as well)"</p>

<p>TRHopeful is sooo right! We immigrated to Canada when I was 8 and then to the US when I was 12yrs old.... from South Africa and my first language was Afrikaans (version of Dutch)... I still managed to get a 740 on the critical reading and a high score on the writing... people who immigrate go through a lot of red tape and usually have to be highly educated to get into the country.... fyi my dad is an Engineer and my mom is a neonatal RN...</p>

<p>I think Asians do well on SATI English, but more so the ones that immigrate, because they work harder and have to make up for not knowing English as long. Plus, they learn correct English, not the evolved slang most hsers these days know.</p>

<p>I don't know if this has been mentioned, but Asian FOBs often have gone through a pretty rigorous English program in China. Unlike in the U.S., where foreign language clocks in as our Nth priority after English, History, Science, Math, Music, Art, Business, Technology, and (of course) Sports/ECs, good schools in China devote a sizable portion of their budget to high-quality English classes.</p>

<p>Which means that my 7th-grade cousin in China can already read Harry Potter in English, and that FOBs from China have (if nothing else) a solid grasp of SAT grammar, and reasonable comfort with the reading passages.</p>

<p>glucose101 is totallys right! immigrants learn the PROPER use of English and not any slang or common gramatical errors.... that definitely helped me on the SAT</p>

<p>The SAT CR and Writing do not test your knowledge of the language. The CR section tests your ability to understand difficult passages and ideas - and to draw conclusions from them. The writing section tests your ability to form cogent and persuasive arguments within a short period of time. </p>

<p>I know native speakers who have gotten 500 on the CR section, and native speakers who have gotten 800 on it. The same is probably true of immigrants. Naturally, if you picked up English a few years ago, the reading will be very difficult (many native speakers find it to be pure torture!)</p>

<p>it almost seems redundant now that everyone pretty much analyzed and disected the situation, but from my personal experience, i think the biggest challenge for immigrant kids (especially the asian ones who havent had exposure to alphabetical words) would be vocab. </p>

<p>i came to the US 2 and a half years ago from Japan. after years of Japanese public school education, all I knew was "Hi! How do you do? My name is... blah blah. and you?"<br>
ok. i knew a little more than that. but you get what im trying to say. </p>

<p>i scored a 450 on my very first SAT Verbal section practice test (before it was revised) that i took from the old big red real SAT book. and that was without the time constraint too. my dad kept telling me about this waitress he was chatting with in a chinese restaurant, that she couldnt manage to pass the 550 mark even after 2 years in the US. that scared me. </p>

<p>and soon i realized my biggest weakness in english. VOCABULARY. i may have known when to use past tense and when to use past perfect, but that didnt help me at all taking the SAT. i used to literally look up every 5 word in the reading passage. desperate, i even tried memorizing the entire longman advanced american dictionary (that didnt work too well.) </p>

<p>my point is, it all depends on how determined an asian immigrant is at learning new words. i say "asian immigrant" because immigrants from countries in europe can always find similarities between english and his/her mother tongue (at least, to some extent). my friend moved here from paris just this school year and he writes better essays and scores better in the CR section than some american kids (even NMsemi i think), primarily because he is so adept at languages, but also because french shares some word roots with english. he knows how to find words that mean exactly what he means. But that doesnt happen with asian languages. in fact, you can find tons of misused english in various asian countries, putting asian kids even to a disadvantage when it comes to learning english. (<a href="http://www.engrish.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.engrish.com&lt;/a> is an amazingly amusing site for that matter :)) </p>

<p>so if you are an asian kid whos desperate trying to score higher on the SAT, tackle vocab. use books like word smart, create flash cards, do whatever that works for you. in order to read and analyze passages, you need vocab. that'll be my advice to you.</p>