how do white girls feel about asian guys?

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I haven't seen Tokyo Drift, but from what I see in the clips and trailers, that movie isn't so bad. It actually shows some pretty suave/cool Asian guys in there that are actually of high social and romantic stature (well, it IS Japan after all); the fact that the white guy may ultimately get the girl in the end is of little importance to me.

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<p>And that’s only b/c the director, an Asian-American, Justin Lin, had to fight hard to get some AM characters which weren’t the typical Hollywood spiel. Lin had the character of the “buddy” to the WM lead fleshed out/more developed with the intent of it being an AM. The studio wanted Lin to change the character to a WM or BM, but he was eventually ablke to get his way.</p>

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She said that it is much worse for guys. She said that she knew a bunch of white guys there (americans that is) and she said they spent many days, practically running from girls that would never stop following them around or flirting with them. Like if he invited 2 girls to go with him somewhere, a whole flock of 10+ would follow.

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<p>There are a (small) % of Japanese girls who are “groupies” (the same group of girls tend to meet the newest arrivals from the US, Australia, Canada, the UK, etc. over and over again).</p>

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<p>It doesn't happen to all guys. Just white guys. Asian females idolize white guys its not even a joke. Especially in Japan, Korea, and China.</p>

<p>You should be asking yourself why this is happening.</p>

<p>Just being Asian is a joke on t.v nowadays. They're the modern day blackface. Dancin for whtie masta. I know it sounds racist but you all know its true somewhat. It has influenced american culture and even asian culture so much that it has warped how we view people. YOU ALL DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF TV!</p>

<p>These two articles I found show exactly how powerful media is and how it has even ingrained the white is right mentality overseas.</p>

<p>This is mainly on koreans and the guy that wrote it is half black and half korean so it has a lot of info on black and korean relations but it makes some pretty good points about race in general so actually read the whole article. It is pretty interesting. I know I read some articles online that are more tailored to the situation at hand so when I find them I will post the link. These were on hand at the moment so I put these up.</p>

<p><a href="http://metropolitician.blogs.com/scribblings_of_the_metrop/2006/02/where_do_korean.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://metropolitician.blogs.com/scribblings_of_the_metrop/2006/02/where_do_korean.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://metropolitician.blogs.com/scribblings_of_the_metrop/2006/02/korean_folks_do.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://metropolitician.blogs.com/scribblings_of_the_metrop/2006/02/korean_folks_do.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>"It doesn't happen to all guys. Just white guys. Asian females idolize white guys its not even a joke. Especially in Japan, Korea, and China."
I know.</p>

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k&s says:
And that’s only b/c the director, an Asian-American, Justin Lin, had to fight hard to get some AM characters which weren’t the typical Hollywood spiel. Lin had the character of the “buddy” to the WM lead fleshed out/more developed with the intent of it being an AM. The studio wanted Lin to change the character to a WM or BM, but he was eventually ablke to get his way.

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<p>Humm, interesting--I didn't know an Asian guy directed Tokyo Drift. I guess the situation in Hollywood STILL sucks for Asian guys then. I thought that movie was a shining exception for me to hang my hat on, but I it turns out it's only because it's directed by an Asian guy.</p>

<p>Was it really true that he had to fight for it though? It seems rather ridiculous and hard to comprehend for me that the director has to fight for some likeable, non-stereotypical Asian characters for a movie set in GODDAMN TOKYO</p>

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Charisma says:
I didn't see it either and I'm probably biased because I don't like the Fast and Furious movies to begin with, but I mean, isn't it worse that the white guy who sounds very white trash-ish (that is him speaking near the end with the worst accent in the history of the earth isn't it? FYI this is coming from someone from Kansas) can beat out all the suave and cool Asian guys at their own game and manages to steal the girl from the best of them (though from the wiki summary, the main antagonist, DK, does seem like a ass)?

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I don't really have anything against a white guy with a southern accent. The main character from Tokyo Drift seems cool enough, and I can relate to someone who's always felt like "he never fit in" a little bit.</p>

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BIGTWIX says:
So, by the information i have been given first hand, by someone who has lived in japan for about 1.5 years of her life (she had an internship too), i think that when the white guy gets the asian girl, in the case of tokyo drift, is not at all racist since according to my tutor, that is basically what happens to all the guys.

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I actually give props to the movie because it doesn't follow the American-cinema stereotype of the white guy getting the Asian girl--the girl wasn't Asian. So I give the movie credit for that, for not fulfilling the whole white guy Asian-fetish fantasy (unlike say, Last Samurai, or the Miami Vice remake--Colin Farrell can choke on my big fat schlong).</p>

<p>Asian guys get stuck in the friend-zone with white girls so much it's ridiculous. I don't think I've ever seen an asian guy sucessfully hitting on a white girl. 99% of the time they are too nice and no matter what happens they end up getting used or just walked all over by the girl.</p>

<p>case in point: this one korean-american has been trying to date my sister for years. he buys her rolex watches, expensive jewelry, takes her on $2000 dates, etc. And she claims that 'oh, he's just a good friend.' Sure.......</p>

<p>For some reason, and I hate to stereotype, but I've seen it so much, Asian guys just don't understand how to attract white women. In other words, then don't understand how to be the alpha male in the american college environment. It doesn't have anything to do with physical appearance. If you can have the right attitude with the girl, she'll respond. Throwing your money at them and supplicating in every possible way IS NOT it.</p>

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<p>Agreed .</p>

<p>Any guy that tries to buy a girl's affections with ridiculous gifts (i.e. Rolexes) isn't going anywhere, regardless of his race. And Asian guys are usually stereotyped as being cheap, no? Not like it matters, since it's not as if racial stereotypes have much truth anyway. Is it any surprise that they're so inconsistent as well?</p>

<p>Justin Lin not only forced the writers to flesh out the character of Sung Kang more, but he also got the studio to concede the possibility of race-blind casting. That is, if Lin could find an Asian actor who was right for the part, then they'd have to cast him. Ultimately, everybody agreed that Lucas Black was the right guy for the part. But that just goes to show how much change is possible if there are people who are genuinely concerned in eliminating racist portrayals in power.</p>

<p>Main problem in entertainment is that minorities are only given niche roles, that is, roles that a White person couldn't possibly play. Black actors are usually only cast in roles that would be ridiculous (at least in the eyes of Hollywood) for a White actor to play: South Central L.A. resident, Ugandan dictator, Ray Charles, rap mogul, superstar athlete, crack-dealing murderer, jive-talking womanizer, etc. If race does not play a pivotal part in the character's persona, then it's automatically designated as a White role. In fact, there's a whole series of literary criticisms about the fact that if the protagonist of a story is not a middle-class (or above) White male, then there always has to be a good reason for this deviation from the default hero. If it's a woman, then it has to all be about feminism, or if it's a poor person, it has to all be about "the struggle". In contrast, a well-to-do White male hero can do anything and everything. In other words, he's the only one allowed to be three-dimensional and human.</p>

<p>The only Black actor that I can think of who gets regularly casted in race-blind roles is Will Smith, and that was only after he had to prove himself with 5 blockbusters or something. Meanwhile, losers who can't act for **** like Colin Farrell regularly headline big projects.</p>

<p>Anyway, in a romantic sense as seen by Hollywood, Asian men have no niche of their own. At their best (meaning Americanized, well-mannered, respectful, handsome, etc.), Asian men are just like White men. At their worst, Asian men are just short dorks with buck teeth who are either asexual or twisted perverts, and not desirable in any sense. On the other hand, Black and Latino men do have niches of their own, which is that of more masculine and aggressive, albeit more stupid, wooers. Yet in the end, the ideal mate is always shown to be a nice White man. </p>

<p>So if Asian men are essentially competing for the same women as White men, why the hell would White writers let them win? For all of the so-called charms of the Black and Latino men, they're not exactly fighting over the same prey. The Blacks and Latinos are firmly entrenched in their doo-rag wearing, hip-hop listening, shizzle-nizzle talking ghettos, and if there are women who are into that, then let them go. But Asians are "White" in the sense that they generally go to college and aspire to become professionals. In a zero-sum game of sex, an Asian gain would directly result in a White loss, and vice versa, so there is just no room for these Asian invaders. It's not a completely baffling logic, though I'm not trying to pardon it. Why should White men willingly allow another group to fight for the same type of women? White men already hate other White men that they have to compete with: the last thing they need is a billion-plus competitors from around the world. </p>

<p>Case in point: Ever hear any women say that they want guys from Japan, Korea, or China? All the time, you'll hear (to my ceaseless annoyance) about how British, Italian, Spanish, or any European (except maybe some seedy former Bloc countries) guys are soooooo dreamy and how it's their dream to marry one. But with Asian-Asian guys, they have to completely Americanize before they're even to be considered. A European FOB is completely charming, but an Asian one is repulsive. And by the time these Asians Americanize and get rid of everything non-physical that makes them different, they'll be in full competition with the rest of the White American male populace.</p>

<p>But for all the complaints, most of the blame has to rest on the individuals themselves. The media does play an important role in shaping first impressions, but first impressions quickly give away to acquaintances and friendships and romances, and the media can't control all that. If you feel like you're being shortchanged SOLELY due to the fact that you're Asian (and not that you're ugly, shy, racially cliquey, etc.), chances are that there is some other issue that's more important than just your race. If you want it to be, then your race will become a problem, but if you can learn to be yourself first and your ethnicity second, then you're on the right track.</p>

<p>^End of post.</p>

<p>Wow, this is like the worst thread ever.</p>

<p>I hate to break it to you guys, but I sincerely believe that intelligent girls of any race aren't really influenced much by the negative media portrayal of Asian men . I believe they would not be opposed to dating an Asian guy if he's decent-looking and has a likable personality. However, they are more likely to be physically attracted to the most attractive white guy than the most attractive Asian guy (to prove my point, show us a picture of whom you, an Asian guy, consider the most attractive white guy and Asian guy). Even girls who do not favor a muscular physique (which is, of course, attainable for guys of either race) tend to like white guys' core body type and facial features better. It's for the same reason many Asian guys prefer white girls. I have nothing against Asian guys... I definitely think the media is to blame on some level, but its influence has been grossly overexaggerated.</p>

<p>So basically, I'm asking you, Asian guys:
1) Show us a picture of whom you consider the most attractive white male and Asian male for the girls to compare.
2) Why do YOU prefer white females?</p>

<p>Seems you're more enraged than anyone else. Got a problem you want to talk about?</p>

<p>Myth: "Size" matters a great deal to women. Truth: "Skill" is what really counts. It's really what you can do with that thing that's important. Which is sexier: A Hum-V, or a high performance, low-to-the-ground sports car with a throaty growl?</p>

<p>Maybe this is the problem?
<a href="http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3786/600pxaszsri4.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3786/600pxaszsri4.jpg&lt;/a>
LOL.</p>