<p>warning this is kinda a jealousy induced rant so if you do not like them don't read</p>
<p>So me and my friend (we shall call him Matt) have known each other most of our life's (since 3rd grade). Matt has always been kinda anti social and more of a family person. This may sound messed up but what he is now is all because of ME. I was the one who told him to go to our highschool (we will call it HCP), I was the one who got him on the newspaper, I was the one who got him all his friends! If you haven't noticed Matt is kinda a conformist... The only reason he has friends is because he hung out with me and I introduced him to MY friends! </p>
<p>HERE IS THE MAIN PROBLEM: He is like way to close to my friends I just saw a status on facebook saying that he went out ice skating with them! Like this took me but SHOCK I was like "Matt went out ice staking with people and I didn't even hear about it?!" Like I just kinda thing its messed up that people like conformists more than free thinkers...I guess you can say I am just jealous especially since I have done nothing with friends this break so far and I am just in my room all day... :/ So this kinda upsets me in a confusing way....</p>
<p>Discuss:Why do people like conformist/followers (or whatever you call them) more than people who express there ideas</p>
<p>PS I am talking about simple people who have no big future plans or super smart like most CC'ers</p>
<p>And I think I know how you feel but really you don’t have much of a reason to be jealous. He just went out with some of your friends for a night, maybe they thought you were busy or something so they didn’t call you. Try not to be so quick to judge, or else you can dig yourself a very deep hole. ;P</p>
<p>For the people who like to express ideas, sure. But for the “mindless” the other mindless are probably most compatible with them. And the mindless are predominate, so this explains why conformists/followers tend to be favored.</p>
<p>I did see, but that didn’t make the way he worded his rant any less disgusting. And if that’s how he truly feels, I’m sure he projects some of that. Hardly any seething teenagers keep their masks up as well as they <em>think</em> they do.</p>
<p>Do you want specific text to character examples?
Okay then. Going to talk about you in third person because that’s how I think about literary characters.</p>
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Completely disregards his own friends will, only thinks of how his own actions affect others. Seems to disregard others feelings for how they generally present themselves to others. Caps lock emphasis on “me” for extra narcissism.</p>
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Sees taking advice as “conforming.” Perhaps insecure in himself, maybe does not understand why his advice would be valued and accounted for. Again, does not see that Matt joining these activities means Matt has to go against Matt’s own will and sacrifice temporary comfort for long term comfort, something clearly “uncomformist.”
Also introduced here is the anger against “conformism.” Protagonist has issues understanding others wills and only sees his own, so it’s easy to see everyone else as “conforming” while he is the sole “individual.”</p>
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Possessive. Again, does not see people as individuals, rather as masses. Does not understand the will of others. </p>
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Boohoo protagonist’s friend is becoming a social being, thus the friend is “conforming,” even though these are the protagonists friends who the protagonist apparently valued, otherwise he wouldn’t be so jealous and mad about “losing” his friends. Why be annoyed at losing your friends if they’re all such “conformists.”</p>
<p>And here’s the main thing that annoyed me:</p>
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CLEARLY people who work hard to be social and make themselves better and get friends are the <em>real</em> conformists, not the people who sit in their rooms all day and just “accept” that no one’s asking them out and aren’t making god damn effort to go out. Clearly not being complacent with your current status is “conformist.”</p>
<p>Obviously arm chair psychology is ridiculous, but just based off this, you sound incredibly immature and hung up on being a “rebel individual” while really, you’re the apathetic conformist.
Also, all the grammatical errors and caps lock makes your post seem hastily posted and hardly reflected upon, rather than coolly introspecting on your current situation and how you allowed yourself to end up this way.</p>
<p>How come I always get the haters when I make a thread…Anyway I don’t feel like replying to all that since kinda talking to one of my friends so just going to reply to end</p>
<p>What work are you talking about he repeats what he hears and says yes to everything that is so hard <em>rolls eyes</em>. Also when did I say I wasn’t being offered stuff I have family drama going on that’s why I’m in my room. And no not a “rebel individual” or conformist…I am just me :P</p>
<p>PS in the beginning of your rant it sounded like you were calling me Creon from Antigone</p>
<p>I don’t think he wears any sort of “mask”. He was MOMENTARILY spurred by jealously after feeling excluded, and after being at home all day, etc, etc. His reaction seems understandable to me. </p>
<p>Wanton, it may be that you are better at controlling baser thoughts or emotions than the Op or me, and so you can’t relate or sympathize, but I think that it’s a skill we all kind of start out poorly at. I don’t see his post being a great indicator of his character…maybe minimally so, but not in any substantial enough way to make the judgement that you did. </p>
<p>Your analysis of his rant is quite accurate I think. I’m not sure posting how he initial feels precludes introspection, though. In fact, other people’s various comments may actually get him to think and consider (even if that wasn’t the purpose). And still, if posting about his experience helps him feel better, then I think that’s a good thing. Expressing unrefined and misguided emotions is ok (and maybe even beneficial) when they don’t harm anyone.
Rather than criticize someone who’s already feeling bad maybe you could at least wait (or if this is an unrealistic option) try a gentler approach.</p>
<p>Because even if you were 100% right about wesley, your response to his thread doesn’t make sense. You were not helping him, only betraying your own lack of control in response to perceived hypocrisy on his end, and perpetuating the same unpleasantness you condemned him for.</p>
<p>enfieldacademy is completely right I just posted this in the heat of the moment I barely feel the same way I did before. I wanted people to talk about it so I could UNDERSTAND this not be criticized because i was showing emotion like a normal human…</p>
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why would I care about grammar on a website that has nothing to do with my future its not like college people are looking at this and now who I am. and yes you are a hater you are just criticizing</p>
<p>Right, I have no function or will outside of the function you’re giving me. I am only a “hater,” it’s impossible that I’m anything else, nor is there any merit to my statements because I’m just a “hater.”
Frankly, I don’t hate you. I don’t care about you, I care about the general ignorance and immaturity in your post that reflects upon most teenagers that I know and is something that I “hate” (how crazy, I might hate something! I guess I really am only a hater!).
If you only wanted sympathy, you should have made that the title. Not an open invitation to express how I “feel.”</p>