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<p>Only the Ag school and some other branches grant in-state tuition status. </p>
<p>If you want to study in Arts & Science, Engineering, or other branches not covered…it’s no different than attending other elite/Ivy private colleges. </p>
<p>For the in-state student who wants to study fields/areas not covered under the branches within the in-state option, they’re out of luck if they want the in-state tuition rate.</p>
<p>In the last several years, Binghamton has made significant efforts to increase out of state attendees, including offering them a quicker decision timeframe and making their admission easier. To its credit, the admissions department has been completely open about how much it prefers OOS applicants. In my neck of the woods, only URM applicants have been accepted in signifcant numbers. In my D’s year, IB graduates with 2100 plus SAT scores were waitlisted before being rejected. Thankfully, they had options like Swarthmore, Boston College, Vanderbilt and Tulane to choose from.</p>
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<p>Nope. Instate. I don’t think they would have gotten into school like Swarthmore and Vanderbilt with bad GPAs. Binghamton has been incredibly tough on in-state kids from the NYC area who are white and middle class. But the admissions people are respectful and open about their preferences.</p>
<p>We feel very lucky to have UVA. DD’13 will be applying to UVA EA. She has visited twice and would be very happy to attend if she doesn’t get into any of her reach schools. </p>
<p>DS’16 has visited UVA once in 8th grade and only wants to apply to UVA in the future. </p>
<p>Thomas Jefferson is my all time favorite president so I’d love for my kids to go to UVA.</p>
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Thanks, now I understand why Buffalo gave my D almost full ride, but Binghamton give her nothing at all. We’re from western New York.</p>
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<p>Looks like it does consider “level of applicant’s interest” in admissions, unusual for a public university. So does Stony Brook, but not Buffalo. (according to <a href=“http://www.collegedata.com%5B/url%5D”>http://www.collegedata.com</a> )</p>
<p>It could very well be that Binghamton is rejecting the high GPA, 2100 SAT applicants under the assumption that they will never attend (perhaps a reasonable assumption, given the strength of “anywhere but state school” attitudes in the region relegating the SUNYs to marginally-desirable safeties for many high-stats applicants), in order to raise its yield.</p>
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<p>That aspect doesn’t explain it as they’ve already started considering “level of applicant’s interest” back in the '90s…especially considering back when I was in HS, it was harder to gain admission to Bing than to schools like BC, URochester, or NYU CAS and students who got into Bing tended to be the same kids who applied and were admitted to schools like Swat, Vandy, Tufts, or even Cornell Arts & Sciences. </p>
<p>Also, the rejecting applicant because his/her stats were too high happened back then too. There was a HS classmate in an earlier class with near 1600 pre-1995 SATs and a 95+ average who ended up being admitted to several elites including some of the HYPS schools who was rejected from LIU for that very reason according to what the GC found out.</p>
<p>Not sure what you mean by “doesn’t explain it”, since what you are saying indicates merely that it is something that they have done since the 1990s, rather than something that they are definitely not doing at all.</p>
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<p>I’m basically saying the greater selectivity on the SAT front for in-staters and preference for OOS as Zoosermom noted are more of the key factors in the current admissions trend for in-staters. Assuming we eliminated the writing section and assuming both CR & M are equal, that’d be 1400. </p>
<p>Then there needs to be a slight adjustment downward because of the re-centering after 1995…but even then, that would probably still be in the low-high 1300s…still much higher than Bing’s minimum SAT requirements back in the '90s and moreso before according to some 80’s alums. </p>
<p>If you had 1300+ pre-1995 SATs and were applying to Bing in the early-mid '90s, the only thing that would have sunk you is if your high school GPA fell below the 90%/~3.5/4.0 hard cutoff or your application looked/read like it was rescued from an incinerator.</p>
<p>I just checked the Binghamton data for our local school. It seems to me that zoosermom’s situation is not true for our school. </p>
<p>From 2007 to 2012, 189 applicants, 78 acceptance. </p>
<p>The average and lowest accepted GPA are 91.3 and 79.3, while the average and lowest accepted SAT are 1961 and 1440. </p>
<p>Only one applicant with above average GPA and SAT was rejected.</p>
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<p>Do those stats exclude students who were admitted under SUNY’s special admit programs for URMs, those from underperforming NY public schools, or first generation college attendees. </p>
<p>Just wondering as 79.3 and 1440 adjusted to pre-1995 SATs is so low that it would have been the only way that would have happened. However, no one in my year sought admission to Bing under those special programs even though many would have qualified under one or more of the listed criteria above. </p>
<p>That is interesting as a 79.3 would have also ruled out a student from attending Stonybrook in the early 90s barring such special admit programs.</p>
<p>"Do those stats exclude students who were admitted under SUNY’s special admit programs for URMs, those from underperforming NY public schools, or first generation college attendees. "</p>
<p>I cannot infer such info from the available data. There might be small possibilities for URMs or first generations. </p>
<p>Most accepted applicants were clustered in the 88-93 GPA and 1800-2000 SAT ranges, mid of the road students in school. I simply do not see the phenomena described by zoosermom.</p>
<p>^And where are you, more or less, PCHope?</p>
<p>Could it be that Binghamton’s track record shows that the students zoose describes do not attend when accepted so to boost their ranking Bing denies them?</p>
<p>I believe that was one method TCNJ did a few years ago -it creates a buzz about the high standards.</p>
<p>"Nope. Instate. I don’t think they would have gotten into school like Swarthmore and Vanderbilt with bad GPAs. Binghamton has been incredibly tough on in-state kids from the NYC area who are white and middle class. But the admissions people are respectful and open about their preferences. "</p>
<p>My sisters step son was rejected with a 34 ACT and both parents were alums. He has been happily at Vandy the last few years. Obviously his GPA was also top notch. </p>
<p>OTOH, my son was accepted with a 30 even though he is an ORM at Bing, but we are from upstate and it’s easier to get in from here. Just like most schools, Bing wants geographic diversity and doesn’t want to be a school where 80% of the students are from downstate.</p>
<p>"^And where are you, more or less, PCHope?"</p>
<p>We are in upstate.</p>
<p>“Could it be that Binghamton’s track record shows that the students zoose describes do not attend when accepted so to boost their ranking Bing denies them?”</p>
<p>In our school, from 2007-2012, 189 applicants, 78 accepted, 15 enrolled.</p>
<p>Current Binghamton student here:</p>
<p>As someone who is from Long Island and originally wanted to attend an Ivy, I am very, very happy at Binghamton. I did not have strong enough stats for that Ivy/privates I dreamed of attending, but I was a match/safety at Binghamton (in 2009). It was my realistic (academically and financially) first choice, and despite the fact that I was accepted at American University (another one of my realistic top choices), I chose to attend Binghamton. </p>
<p>I’ve never had a problem with the SUNY system and I think it’s great that it offers so many equal choices. There is no “one” campus you need to get into, otherwise you are in a bottom-of-the-barrel school. I had a good idea of what I wanted when I was senior in high school and choose to attend Binghamton over New Paltz or Stony Brook because of that. If my preferences had been different, I would have chosen accordingly. </p>
<p>My experience has been fantastic. I’ve met professors who are now my mentors, I have conducted independent research, led clubs, helped organize a large academic event, and gave back to the school by working in a very interesting job this past summer. Have the academics been as challenging as they could have for me? No, but because they weren’t I was able to do other things and keep my head above water. I accept that trade-off since I was able to learn so much outside of the classroom.</p>
<p>My impression as a parent is that UMass is trying to tone down the “ZooMass” image. The RA’s (at least in my son’s dorm last year) seem to pretty strictly enforce the no-drinking rules (ask me how I know…). Like almost any school if you want a party you can find one. UMass Amherst is also no longer an automatic admit for the “B” students. It’s average GPA is now 3.6 something and a large number of the 3.0 students from my son’s large suburban high school are at Worcester State.</p>