How does a P/NP class look to grad schools? VS a W? VS a C?

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<p>I'm a freshman and I'm in physics right now and I'm pretty sure I'm bombing it. I think I can pass, but that's about it. ...I'll see after the first midterm next week, I guess.</p>

<p>I'd actually considered dropping it, but since it's week 3 now, I couldn't add any other classes and without it I'd be at 12 units. (13 is the minimum required per quarter, right?)</p>

<p>My major's not anything related to physics. If I go to grad school, it'd probably be for either tax, economics, or law.</p>

<p>So how does a P/NP look under these circumstances to those sorts of schools? Would it be better to strive for a C or to go for a P?</p>

<p>Also, just in case for future reference, how would a W look compared to the C vs P?</p>

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<p>12 is the minimum required per quarter. 13 is only the average needed for meeting ECP. </p>

<p>I’d say either P/NP or drop it before the end of week 4. If you’re planning on going to law school and you do decide to take it P/NP, you’d better not do it again (or at least not more than one more time).</p>

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<p>Don’t get a C. It’ll destroy your GPA. I’d go for P/NP if you’re intent on staying in it. If you’re on financial aid, i heard that you can drop a class after week 3 and be fine (but obviously go to the office and talk to them about it if that’s a concern.)</p>

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<p>Do you have a link for the 12 units thing? Because then I’d really like to drop it and just pick my classes better next quarter.</p>

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<p>They told me this in the financial aid office. But i did this in spring quarter when i was considering dropping a class. So i’m not sure if they told me this because it was the end of the academic year, or if the three-week rule applies to all quarters.</p>

<p>So you should go there and talk to them about it.</p>

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<p>See UCLA General Catalog pdf file from [UCLA</a> Registrar’s Office: General Catalog 2011-12](<a href=“http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/catalog/]UCLA”>http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/catalog/)</p>

<p>IF you are College of Letter Science, see Page 75,
During a regular term of enrollment, undergraduate
students in the College are required to enroll in a minimum
of 13 units.</p>

<p>If you are School of Engineering, see Page 87,
Undergraduate students in the school are expected to
enroll in at least 12 units each term. </p>

<p>I suggest you check the pdf file, there are some conditions/rules if you choose P/NP, for example if you get some scholarship from the school…</p>

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<p>That seems very strange to me, that you would need to enroll in 13 units a quarter. First of all because 3 4-unit classes is standard fare for an easy to average quarter. Second of all, I know multiple people who have been doing this for several quarters and still receive financial aid. Finally, CAPPP specifically makes a point of mentioning that by taking 12 units during the program, you remain a full-time student at UCLA.</p>

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<p>So which office should I go talk to? I don’t get any financial aid or anything, so I don’t know about going there?</p>

<p>Also, like TiaWNPP was saying, I looked at the booklet thing they gave out at orientation, and it says 13 units per quarter for ECP. But I couldn’t tell if that was recommended so that you’d hit 27 units by the end of your second quarter or if it was required. Their wording wasn’t terribly clear to me.</p>

<p>Since I completed 15 units last quarter, I should still meet the ECP requirements, I think?</p>

<p>Also, a C-=NP, right?</p>

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<p>My student was told to take at least 13 units per quarter in orientation.
FAQ in Bruin parents page( [Academics:</a> Frequently Asked Questions — UCLA Parent & Family Programs](<a href=“Parent and Family Association - UCLA Alumni”>Parent and Family Association - UCLA Alumni) ), A full-time student will take at least 12 or 13 units per quarter.
Whether it’s 12 or 13 units, I think it depends on your school (major). You should talk to your counselor or academic advisor before making changes.</p>

<p>[GRADES[/url</a>]
The grade P is assigned for a letter grade of C or better. Units earned this way count toward degree requirements but do not affect the GPA. Students receive neither units nor course credit for an NP grade.</p>

<p>[url=&lt;a href=“http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/catalog/catalog11-12-41f.htm]College”&gt;http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/catalog/catalog11-12-41f.htm]College</a> of Letters and Science: Policies and Regulations](<a href=“http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/catalog/catalog11-12-35.htm#369228344_pgfId-72270]GRADES[/url”>http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/catalog/catalog11-12-35.htm#369228344_pgfId-72270)
Minimum Progress/Expected Cumulative Progress</p>

<p>During a regular term of enrollment, undergraduate students in the College are required to enroll in a minimum of 13 units. Students are also required to meet cumulative progress unit expectations as outlined in the Expected Cumulative Progress Chart at <a href=“http://www.ugeducation.ucla.edu/counseling/regulations/exprog.htm[/url]”>http://www.ugeducation.ucla.edu/counseling/regulations/exprog.htm&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

<p>[College</a> Academic Counseling - UCLA College of Letters and Science](<a href=“http://www.ugeducation.ucla.edu/counseling/exp-cum-prog.html]College”>http://www.ugeducation.ucla.edu/counseling/exp-cum-prog.html)
To satisfy the ECP guidelines, you are expected to enroll in a minimum of 13 units during a regular quarter of enrollment and to meet the unit target listed for each quarter of your enrollment. By the end of the second quarter, for example, freshmen are expected to have completed 27 units,</p>

<p>UCLA College Advising Units</p>

<p>There are four principal advising units administered by the UCLA College:
•College Academic Counseling (CAC)
•Academic Advancement Program (AAP)
•Honors Programs
•Student Athletics</p>

<p>CAC Counselors
[CAC</a> Counselors](<a href=“http://www.ugeducation.ucla.edu/counseling/counselors.html]CAC”>http://www.ugeducation.ucla.edu/counseling/counselors.html)</p>

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<p>ECP has nothing to do with being a full-time student. You can even have ECP waived, so it’s really not even that important. Its only purpose is to make sure you’re staying on track for graduation.</p>

<p>The best person to talk to would be a counselor.</p>

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<p>Dude, if it’s a GE and not part of a major or minor requirement, just taking a freaking P. P won’t affect your GPA for grad school like a C or B- does. Nobody cares if you take 1 or 2 classes P/NP. Just do it. I’ve used it twice in my 4 years here on a science GE and on Spanish 2. It’s not a big deal. Just don’t get like 8 of them or something.</p>

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<p>P/NP’s are not an issue for graduate schools, particularly for non-major related courses. I took a few GEs P/NP at UCI, and UCLA had no issues when they admitted me to grad school.</p>