<p>Which one is better suited if I were in this position? ookay, okay... yes, I am in this position. Bombed my first phil exam...</p>
<p>Anyway, I'm not here for sympathy. Here's my mapped plan: change it to P/NP since it's for GE requirements and continue to get financial aid (12 units min..=/) Or... try harder a bit so I can pull myself up, but if I don't make it, then put a W on the class... Please note that the P/NP thing's deadline is tomorrow, so PLEASE do reply quickly. Thanks in advance! And if anyone could clear the financial aid problem for me, that would be great! From what I know, if you have below 12 quarter units, then you will have to pay back or not get financial aid??!??? is that true? =/</p>
<p>Hmm, well I’ve heard they have been punishing people more than they have been. Typically if you go below 8.6 you would be put on probation. The best thing to do is really not go below 11 or 12 but people do have their off terms and have to sacrifice a class. In this case if it is the Intro to Philosophy/Knowledge & Reality class and wasn’t getting an A (which I got and helped my GPA!) then I’d take the W. Yet if you are on a tight schedule go for the P/NP which is not a bad one to take it in instead of withdrawing and having to repeat later. Intro to Philosophy is a good class to take that colleges like but I did look at as more at the time of registering as more of GPA booster class even though the tests and papers were some of the hardest I ever done! Reading the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy while taking a Stanford Professor is enough to do permanent damage to ones brain.</p>
<p>On the other hand if it is the Critical Thinking based Philosophy class and weren’t getting a B or better then I’d drop and take it again or in this case a W which sucks but wouldn’t be devastating. If it’s just ethics or comp religion, history of past…or modern, then it depend on how I felt about the class and teacher overall whether I would do a withdrawal or would just take a P/NP with no worries. If its the really hard style logic class then I’d study hard now or do it again letter grade.</p>
<p>If you take the class as P/NP and plan on going to grad school, i believe that the universities will count the grade as a C. As long as the class is not a prerequisite then you should be ok. What grade did you get on the exam?</p>
<p>Will count the grade as a C?!?! I highly doubt that since doesn’t effect GPA either which way. Plus for a Intro class if that is what it is? They aren’t going to care about that once you earn your bachelors. I’ve heard this theory before but have yet to see or hear proof of it. I think you mean some may have the perception that the person may have earned a C. Unless is a major prereq, it really doesn’t matter and whats wrong with keeping them guessing if already offer in the first place.</p>
<p>okay, so just to clear up my story, the class is Knowledge and Reality. Taking that class as a GE requirement was a huge mistake. The professor didn’t tell us to do the readings, but he did mention it on the syllabus. I should have read that syllabus carefully, but I didn’t. So yea… by bombing I meant an F. What happened to those people that go below 12 units?</p>
<p>What is academic probation? And no…if I do W the class, then I will never take it ever again. There were other choices given, but phil suited my eyes at the time. The biggest problem that I see if I don’t have 12 units (minimum units) is not getting financial aid. That’s what I heard, but I’m not sure…so anyone wanna clear that up?</p>
<p>haha taking Knowledge and Reality is actually a great GE requirement. I can’t help but laugh when you said you would never take it again. Did you think it was going to be a cakewalk or something? Some people seem to have this idea that Philosophy is all about random thoughts and musings and see many do bad because of that. It’s really not the teachers fault if you didn’t do the readings. You could still redeem yourself and pass the class but if are hating it and its interfering with your other schoolwork just take the W.</p>
<p>Even if you fall below 8.6 and go on probation you can be extended a term of financial aid for readjustment. Its just recommended at that point to earn enough credits throughout the year. The rest depends on whether they paid you the full amount yet. If you take a W too soon they may require you to pay back a percentage since you would be in violation of Title V funds. Each week of attendance is calculated on a percentage accrued basis.</p>
<p>First of all, I never blamed anyone for my mistakes except myself, so don’t get the wrong notion here. It’s my first quarter at a CC, so I have no prior knowledge of how college was supposed to be like. I didn’t blame my professor when I said I didn’t read the readings online, nor did I when I concluded that I should have read the syllabus carefully. I did not imply any negativity towards the class. I just didn’t do well without the knowledge.</p>
<p>Anyway, thank you all for helping me through this great obstacle. I now know how it’s like in college, woo! I decided to put it as P/NP because it’s a GE requirement, and it will also help me stay out of academic probation and whatnot.</p>
<p>Nah, I agree the instructor should have emphasized and reminded students to read since hardly anyone pays attention to the syllabus even though is suppose to be the contract. </p>
<p>So now that you got a taste of the ‘Reality’ of what the class is like, feel free to post about any of the ‘Knowledge’ they are drilling you on since decided to take P/NP.</p>