<p>I was wondering how hard civil engineering at Cal really is? How do most graduates compare to others when getting jobs? Is it really worth moving from sunny LA area to berkeley? I;m deciding between USC viterbi and cal civil eng programs??</p>
<p>I don't know how much this helps, but they are considered (Cal) number one in the nation by U.S. Newsweek I think for CivilE.</p>
<p>Yes, it's supposed to be amazing. USC's program is also supposed to be very good. Berkeley weather is also very good, although this year, I've heard, is the wosrt weather in fifty years. There are advantages to living in Berkeley and Bay Area, and some disadvantages, but I'd take it over the traffic of LA, and the culture is more interesting to me.</p>
<p>for sure berkeley, im starting as CE this next fall, it is ranked #1 like luceusnoodles said - worldwide rep, + a great chance of getting into any grad school: the degree is really good, and it encompasses civil, environmental, transportation, and science engineering all under the CE degree. talked to a professor and he said you can become a lawyer or some unrelated profession in grad school with the CE degree because it commands so much respect</p>
<p>you can become a lawyer because most good lawyers require background knowledge in diverse fields, not necessarily because of the respect the BS commands. This is quite similar to how Stanford's MBA program likes to accept engineers; the engineering mindset that you'll acquire over the next for years is quite amazing.</p>
<p>With that being said, Berkeley's Civil Engineering is the best in the nation. Being an engineering major, the program is pretty challenging, but it's not as challenging as compared to EECS, or Chemical Engineering. It's all do-able depending how much effort you put in.</p>
<p>As to after graduating...if you keep up you're grades, you should have No problems getting into just about any grad school you want. Getting a job should also be very easy for you, relative to others in the same field.</p>
<p>"This is quite similar to how Stanford's MBA program likes to accept engineers; the engineering mindset that you'll acquire over the next for years is quite amazing."</p>
<p>MBA were designed for engineers in the first place, so they can go into management.</p>
<p>unlimitedx, MBA weren't designed for engineers specifically, they were designed for students who didn't study business as undergrads. The great majority of MBAs do not come from engineering/science backgraonds.</p>
<p>CE at Cal is great, not that hard because CE is not as sexy a major as EE. Fairly small, #1 faculty (in the world, not the US), quite collegial.</p>
<p>CalX, when I say "first place," I meant way back in 1990 when MBAs were conferred to graduates of commercial sciences, engineers.</p>
<p>Now it's different, and MBAs are no longer exclusively for engineers, but what I said was MBAs were designed for engineers when Tuck conferred the first them over 100 years ago and on for some time.</p>