<p>You got it. I woke up this morning and made it my goal to cause drama today.</p>
<p>Nothing wrong in a little heated debate. Oh, and Izzy, I agree with you for the most part. I will not agree with you on every miniscule aspect… Overall I think you have the right ideas, who the hell am I to judge, though.</p>
<p>I had no intention of causing drama. I clearly see that I did… I apologize that my posts were interpreted in such a manner and I didn’t mean for this… (This does not mean that my opinions have changed, they hold true)…</p>
<p>Oh well :)</p>
<p>Izzy Busy Bee, I’ll tell you exactly why an admissions officer wouldn’t be impressed by an applicant who started ECs for the purpose of having them on a boarding school or college application. This response comes from my mom, who worked as an admissions officer at Cate School and then as an alumni interviewer for Andover when she moved to England.</p>
<p>She says that extracurriculars are supposed to show initiative and a student’s ability and desire to improve themselves or others. If one has an ulterior motive for joining student council, for example, then that shows no desire to actually make a difference. It sounds like, for all you care, you don’t need to do anything in student council now that you can put “student council president” on your app. Would you vote for a candidate who came right out and said they want to be president because it would help their college apps? I thought not. Sports and community service are the same.</p>
<p>And seriously, guys, let’s all just take a step back. Stop accusing people of causing drama, stop calling people condescending, and for all the people who are arguing against principalviola and me, consider your allies - you’re fighting on the same side as Jasmyn. Do you really want to be on her side? Just wondering…</p>
<p>Okay, i’ve been reading these boards obsessively but i didn’t make an account or anything.
But this board just really made me confused.
OF COURSE padding counts.
I’m not passionate about volleyball. It’s fun, but not something i see doing for the rest of my life. I’m not even that good at it, i join because my parents are big health freaks and want me to do sports and stuff.
I’ve been playing volleyball for years, and was elected captain every year there was one. To admissions this DOES translate into passion, and may have been one of the reasons that i was accepted. I can’t be sure.
I’m sure they can definitely see through some padding, but they aren’t lie detectors.</p>
<p>Yeah but if you are a padder you won’t just start one thing… Tell me, Jasmyn… If you, god forbid, were an admissions officer what wold you say to someone who had a bunch of crap he did for the pure sake of doing it…</p>
<p>And how many email accts do you have, honestly?</p>
<p>Why the hell would someone want you to volunteer if your objective is not to make it a better place? Just curious, lol.
Anyway, I will tell you how an adcom will tell the difference. Showing TRUE initiative. This would be doing things such as fundraising, building schools, etc.
If your motive is NOT to help, you will not be doing things even CLOSE to the stature or caliber that students who do it for the pure benefit of others (and benefit of self as a learning experience) would do.</p>
<p>Yeah, well… When I started seriously volunteering I did not give a **** about my college resume. As far as I was concerned I was going to live in Canada asap after grad… </p>
<p>Even now, I benefit because I learn… All the resume crap is not what I do it for… Let me tell you this, I did not even put it on my apps. Not everyone does things such as you, Jasmyn. I truly like volunteering so stop generalizing (falsely) things about me, and those like me.</p>
<p>I agree with lots of things said on post #167. Many people like to convince themselves their doing it or started doing it just out of the goodness of their heart. And there’s no changing their mind…</p>
<p>And I’m sorry to tell you, but once you get around to college applications…its not that hard to say you did this fund raising. Or you helped build that specific school. Unless you do something so out of the blue …its just gunna fall in to “Volunteer Work”. They don’t have the time to smell out your initiative, unless you write an essay on it or soemthing. And show that it’s a huge part of their life.</p>
<p>The people who TRULY do it out of the goodness of their heart and that’s it, their not thinking about anything else along with it. Have it as one of their major hooks. They do it almost of a daily basis and their life is obsessed with it. When you have 15 ECs or something and you throw in volunteer work. Your gunna be categorized with the rest.</p>
<p>PPV, most people are not like you. How many people do you honestly think start volunteer work purely out of the goodness of their heart? And, once again, how do you come to the conclusion that anyone who starts Vwork for something other than altruism is bad? That they can’t come to love serving people? it was like that with me. I didn’t start it just to help. But i absolutely love Vwork now. Also, most people would not do Vwork if it cost them dearly or they absolutely hated it. It makes you feel good to help, so you do it. </p>
<p>Also, how do you come to the conclusion that admins are lie detectors? that they will not admit someone who has an excellent app because they aren’t Mother Theresa? Most people aren’t completely selfless, and m willing to hazard a guess that you aren’t either</p>
<p>P.S. NEVER move to Canada. It sucks. I just moved here from NOLA and it suucks.</p>
<p>I’m not completely selfless… I torrent way too much (haha, poor Sudanese kids need my help, not rich people like Bono)…</p>
<p>Et Quebec est tres, tres, amusant. J’adore le festival de ice par anne. Le temps comme ci comme ca, mais dans le princetemps tres bon! </p>
<p>Any French speakers can tell me if my French is any good? mmoyan… I’m usually pretty damn good at French (well, for someone who is in French two) but right now I feel like the only language I know is English. </p>
<p>Not to turn this into a French thread or anything. And Izzy, I assume you know some French… Moving from a Cajun area to Quebec?</p>
<p>Actually, I just started French a few months ago! I have a private teacher, since I obviously can’t just jump into a regular class… It’s going, according to my teacher, very fast. I understood everything you just typed. Since we can go at my pace, we dont have to spend lots of time on things I understand.
And, contrary to popular belief, most people in NOLA can’t speak French. It’s a long story, but about 2 generations ago, English was made the only language that school can be taught in. It was repealed a few decades ago, but the damage has been done. Most French Immersion programs are very small.
Maybe Quebec is nice. Alberta sucks, I can tell you that.</p>
<p>Also, the more Cajun area is in Southwestern Louisiana. I know very few cajuns, and I am of mostly Scottish/Irish/German descent.</p>
<p>I really don’t understand what this argument is about.
Is it about padding, community service or money?
I want to respond but i don’t know what i should respond too.</p>
<p>amazing are you one of jasmyn’s many accounts?</p>
<p>@ Izzy: Just because Alberta sucks (which it does not: hence, the West Edmonton Mall!!! EEK! … okay, I’ll stop) doesn’t mean the rest of Canada does… :D</p>
<p>Because BC = teh ownage.
(kind of, except for public education… okay, i’m not really making sense here)
Where IS nola, anyways? North… o… los angeles? o_o</p>
<p>@ principalviola said:
“Et Quebec est tres, tres, amusant. J’adore le festival de ice par anne. Le temps comme ci comme ca, mais dans le princetemps tres bon!”</p>
<p>le festival de ice = le festival de glace… ? par annee <- two e’s. LOL.
“le temps comme ci comme ca”, i don’t get…? “the time so-so”?
princetemps = printemps (spring?)
haha, i understood it except for the le temps comme ci comme ca part :)</p>
<p>LOL, french thread ftw… >_></p>
<p>Isn’t comme ci comme ca supposed to mean a little there a little here? I meant to put temperature… Don’t listen to my french on this, I like forgot every ounce of french after break.</p>
<p>Je prefere parler en francais, j’habite a paris.Vous etes fluent en francais?</p>
<p>Non, non, non. J’habite dans etas unis… Je suis dans Francais deux (honors, however you say that)…</p>
<p>honneur=honor i think. moi aussi, je ne suis pas fluent. i just speak a bit</p>
<p>NOLA= New Orleans, Louisiana.</p>
<p>@DiveAlive: WestEd is ok…I was expecting it to be…different, somehow. Like when you first walk into a Disney World park. Amazing. It’s just…a big mall. But I live in Sherwood Park, which sucks beyond belief.</p>