<p>I understand that state schools are mandated to enroll a certain ratio of in state students compared to out of state students. This usually means that it is harder out of state students to receive admission to such state schools. However, my question is how much harder? For instance, the total admission rate at the University of Virginia for Fall 2007 is 35%. The breakdown between out of state students versus in state students was 27.3% and 47.2%, respectively. For this school, the admittance rate for out state students was significantly lower. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, such data isn't available for other state schools. I was wondering, can similar declines be expected of other state schools? Or is it more dramatic for other state schools such as the UCLA, UC Berkeley, UNC Chapel Hill, U-Michigan, Rutgers, etc.? Any assistance you may be able to give would be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>It depends on the school and the state. UNC-CH is limited by state mandate to 18% OOS students, so it's very hard for OOS applicants who aren't recruited athletes to get in there. Other schools like Rutgers are considerably easier.</p>
<p>I believe if you look at the common data sets of these large schools, you can find out what percentage of students are from OOS and pretty much everything else you want to know about admission statistics. If you do a search on the individual school website you should be able to find the data set. Most websites we've looked at have this information somewhere. You just need to spend time finding it as it is available. </p>
<p>You'll also find out if state residency is a consideration for admission. In most state schools it will be. From what I've learned on CC, OOS admission at UCLA and Berkely are tough.</p>
<p>UC schools are ridiculously hard to get into if you are out-of-state, especially for UCLA and UC Berkeley (it is almost comparable to ivy league admissions). Just take a look at the out-of-state admitted percentage, and you'll know just how many out-of-staters attend those schools; most UC's have 98% in-state students. </p>
<p>Other state schools are looking for more out-of-state students. One example, from what I read Michigan state university had so many in-state applicants compared to out-of-state that they mostly went thru all of the out-of-state student applications before going to in-state just to see how many they could admit. Of course, a lot of schools must meet specific quotas on in-state to out-of-state student ratios depending on the state policies</p>
<p>Typically out of state students make up approx. 18% of state schools. This number may vary slightly, but each state's government mandates the number of i.s. to o.o.s.</p>
<p>Like others say, it depends. I would say the Top CA schools would be the hardest. I think the mid-level UCs are pretty hard too depending on the year.</p>
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<p>Funny, I know a fellow classmate who was accepted to UCLA, but waitlisted by NYU.</p>
<p>@kwu: ucs are also sometimes ridiculously random. they are one of the few public institutions that try to have a small private school approach at accepting and sometimes they fail. They ARE hard to get into though, especially the top ones for oos. enough that I would recommend not applying unless there is a specific professor or something that you want.</p>
<p>This is flatly false. Some states mandate an in-state quota, some don't.</p>
<p>California limits OOS to 10% at each campus in the UC system. As a result, UC-Berkeley actually enrolls about 8% OOS. </p>
<p>In contrast, Michigan does not mandate an OOS quota, and the University of Michigan's undergrad enrollment is 35% OOS. That's an enormous difference. </p>
<p>Does that make it "easy" for an OOS applicant to get into Michigan? Well, easier than Berkeley which is a real crap-shoot for any OOS applicant, but it's "easy" at Michigan only if you're in the upper ranks of their relatively strong statistical profile AND they're convinced you're seriously interested and not just using them as a "safety." But if your stats are strong (i.e., at or above their 75th percentile SAT/ACTs and top 10% of your HS class) and you think you really want to go there, don't be deterred by the fact that you're OOS because you probably have a good chance of being accepted.</p>
<p>The others have pretty much said it all, but don't forget that it's probably easiest at University of Michigan because they admit on a rolling basis and, like bclintonk said, admit more OOS-ers.</p>
<p>perhaps tangential: there are a number of public schools where the tiny percentage allotted to oos students prevents the school from becoming "better" in the public eye. good example is the university of washington- which could easily become a ucla if not a berkeley status school were it to admit more oos students. it has the same quality of research & faculty as the top uc's nearby do, but because admissions are nowhere near as competitive, it's less well-known.</p>
<p>uva - QUITE difficult. i am a virginian and i was rejected. the same goes for william and mary, but even more so. </p>
<p>chapel hill - notorious for being uber selective with OOS students.</p>
<p>the rest are difficult OOS too, besides for rutgers. generally, if admission is tough for in staters, it will be even more so OOS. schools have quotas they are required to fill...</p>
<p>no quota for seattle, but also virtually no outreach to oos students. that plus no merit scholarships and no preexisting reputation prevents it from being like the uc's.</p>
<p>UDub has problem fielding enough spaces for its qualified in-state students. That's why it terminated its contract with the state community colleges a few years ago. It's getting quite tough for OOS and international applicants in the last couple years.</p>