How important is religion to you?

<p>@ Monoclide</p>

<p>I wouldn’t say that it’s irrational, exactly. It’s not possible to prove that something doesn’t exist, but you can show that no one has ever disproved the null hypothesis. So, from a scientific standpoint, there is no god because the existence of one has never been shown.</p>

<p>I’m not into philosophy and arguments of that type; I prefer to stick to logical arguments, destroying others’ arguments with logical fallacies as often as possible. However, I do certainly need to at least look into and learn about the more philosophical aspects, as I admit I got lost once you mentioned absurdism, pure ideas, and metaphysical properties. Methinks some googling is in order.</p>

<p>In regards to some atheists’ motives, I agree that some people are “atheist for the wrong reasons”. Some people are just being contrarian, which is just as ridiculous as doing something just to be like everyone else, of course. Some people are, as you said just anti-some religion and they call that atheism. But most of the people I run into are legitimately atheist. Usually in the form of taking an absolute dearth of evidence for a god the one step farther into feeling and thinking that one does not exist. (Thinking about it now, there’s definitely a difference between feeling that there is no god, which is perfectly legitimate, and logically coming to the conclusion/thinking that there is no god, which often gets fuzzy and difficult to defend).</p>

<p>Hmm…I think I rambled altogether too much. Oh well.</p>

<p>Who would you feel compelled to elect?</p>

<p>I am going to nominated Warts. I like Plato’s idea of the Philosopher-King and I think Warts fills that role rather well (well, queen as the case may be).</p>

<p>Thanks Romani!</p>

<p>Who are the upper level CCists?</p>

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<p>But we also have to respect that there is potential for science to prove a supernatural entity, such as God or a god. Discovery and proof is relative to scientific advancement. Thus, agnosticism - the belief that there is a potential for a higher entity but it is unknown to man or men. </p>

<p>I highly recommend reading Albert Camus. He is a Algerian-French Philosopher who writes on nihilism, absurdism, and atheism. Read “The Stranger” - and make sure it is translated by Stuart Gilbert. Easily my favorite book of all time.</p>

<p>If matter can neither be created nor destroyed then the universe and everything in it always has been in some form? :S</p>

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<p>The universe is a giant blanket. You are me and I am you. </p>

<p>Anyone up for transcending time?</p>

<p>If nothing can act without a force acting upon it, what was the original force?</p>

<p>Hmm…</p>

<p>Existence is illogical. Why should the universe exist if no one created it? If God created the universe, who created God?
Therefore nothing exists, and we are just figments of the imagination of some three toed green alien. But who created said alien?
If nothing exists, I don’t have to say things that make sense.</p>

<p>Life is oriented around a lack of definitive proof, solely enabling perception to secure sanity, belief, and hope for some ideal cause or elaboration on the purpose of earth and the inhabitants that compose it.</p>

<p>^philosopher</p>

<p>My intent is to be a psychologist.</p>

<p>But you seem to like philosophy! You could double major?</p>

<p>I’ll probably decide within a few years. It’s beneficial to expose oneself to a multitude of subjects.</p>

<p>Religion is not at all important to me. I would consider myself an atheist but to be honest, I wouldn’t be a huge fan if everyone in the world decided to become atheists as well, lol. I think religion is most often a very strong force for good in the world, as corrupted and messed up as it often is. Personal beliefs are great, organized religion can go wrong pretty easily, but both, in my opinion, generally have positive effects overall (um, not that I agree with them in the slightest, haha).</p>

<p><em>sees INVENIAMVIAM as last poster in a thread</em>
<em>sees that the thread is about religion</em>
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<p>“uh oh”</p>

<p>But it was a generally inoffensive post… guess HSL just isn’t what it used to be</p>

<p>I can’t believe that none of you can’t believe that God is a macaw :(:(</p>

<p>^Judging from my experience of macaws, the fact that we still exist to talk about it after 1000s of years disproves that theory.</p>

<p>To the OP: What is Religion? Christianity as given in the Bible is very important to me, but “Religion” tends to warp that message.</p>

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<p>I will add that to my reading list.</p>