How impressive is an Essay 12?

<p>Probably not well.</p>

<p>The grading is extremely flawed, as it judges your ability to construct a 5 paragraph formulaic essay in 25 minutes.</p>

<p>IMO, the AP English Comp. exam is a much better judge of one's writing. Getting a 9 on one those essays looks good.</p>

<p>what percentile is an essay that got a 9?</p>

<p>Yeah I dont think the SAT Essay is anything to brag about... I'm not an english guy at all, and I got an 11 and a 12 on the essays, neither of which I thought were any good. My friend is a fantastic writer and is going to Dartmouth for English and got an 8 but still managed a 740 on the entire writing section. Basically, there is no telling why they give 12's to some people, and it should not be a basis for judgement on intellectual capabilities.</p>

<p>What if I scored a 12 on both the SAT and ACT essays. Will that carry much weight?</p>

<p>As I've posted previously, one of the Duke admissions officers told us at an info session in November that even though Duke is not counting the writing part of the new SAT this year, an 800 on the writing section is "so rare that it definitely attracts our attention."</p>

<p>I think getting a 12 isn't luck...it means you're a good writer. I know how yall' will bash me for saying that, but it's the truth. If you're in the 99%+ percentile, it must mean something.</p>

<p>Since most college writing assignments are not meant to be completed in 25 minutes, I see the SAT essay to be measuring a meaningless skill anyway.</p>

<p>Are you saying the AP English portion is meaningless also? I think it's reasonable, now that I've practiced.</p>

<p>Not very impressive at all. A 12 essay and a poor application essay is worse than a 9 essay and a good-great application essay.</p>

<p>I consider myself to be a very strong writer and I only got a 9 on the SAT essay portion. As far as I'm concerned (and probably many schools), a 25-minute, on-the-spot essay on a very broad topic is not a great indication of your writing abilities.</p>

<p>glucose101, I would say that the analytical skill required for good performance on the AP English exam is important and meaningful.</p>

<p>I'm getting 9s on the AP English practice essays (according to my teacher), and only like 10s (according to CC people), so I guess I'm skewed in that sense because I haven't gotten a 12. So to me, a 12 is more desirable.</p>

<p>Did the old writing subject test require an essay to be written in a short amount of time?</p>

<p>I got a 12 on the ACT writing, but i only got a 700-something on the SAT writing</p>

<p>Its impressive, but Im not sure how much it ha sto do with admissions. I got a 12 essay, 800 writing and a 5 on the AP Eng Lang test, and Im not applying to Harvard...</p>

<p>I think an 800 is more important than a 5 or a 12, IMO.</p>

<p>To me any of those are impressive, maybe not to an adcom, but to me, it is impressive.</p>

<p>It sucks that lots of colleges don't count writing. My M/W/CR distribution looks something like 800/760/640. If I did M and W+CR average, on the 1600 scale it would be around 1500. If I did M and W, it would be around 1560. If I did M and CR, it would be around 1440. GRRR. If I did all three, it's around 2200 (1470ish? on the old scale).</p>

<p>The 5 on the AP Eng test trumps the 12 Essay on the SAT essay easily. I got a 10 my first SAT essay and then a 5 on the AP test just a couple months later. I decided that if I dumbed down my SAT writing I'd improve my essay score, and I was right.</p>

<p>ihateCA, what colleges don't count writing? Or, if the list is shorter, what colleges do count writing? I thought most did count it.</p>

<p>Maybe they all do. I don't know. If they do, great. If not, sucks for me.</p>

<p>I get A+s on essays in English, but I got a 9 twice on the SATs. Go figure.</p>