<p>I have a dilemma. I am applying to some good schools with an excellent GPA and good SAT scores. Unfortunately, my cumulative score is deceptive.</p>
<p>I received a 2100/2400, but also got a 740 in writing with a perfect 12 on the essay. This leaves me with a 1360/1600, good but now great.</p>
<p>I know it can't hurt me, but will it help me? Will anyone look at my perfect 12 and say "wow" or just go "cool, too bad it doesn't count".</p>
<p>I also know it depends on the schools ur applying to. Anyone know what schools look at it or what don't?</p>
<p>Hmm...good question. Before the new SATs were instated, we had to take a writing section anyway which was also out of 800, and so I think that would be how they do it.</p>
<p>So in short, it matters equally as much as it did back then as it does now. No more no less.</p>
<p>I hope that helped, but again I am only one person with one opinion. So yeah ask around.</p>
<p>hopefully it gets at least the amount of recognition that subject tests do. </p>
<p>depends on the school really. Some schools dont care about subject tests at all so those would prolly treat writing the same. However schools that recommend them will probably consider writing.</p>
<p>oh i know im not complaining whatsoever, just wanted to point out that my writing was siginicantly higher than my other scores so will that matter at all or be a wash?</p>
<p>I'm in a very similar situation. I have a 770 on the Verbal and a 580 on the math. 1350, pretty good. But I also have an 800 on the writing, which no schools seem to look at. A 2150 is much better than a 1350, if only schools would give it some weight.</p>
<p>1360 is good. If you're a good all-around candidate, with the right experiences behind you, the right mix of extracurriculars, etc, you're in good shape.</p>
<p>Here's the dicey news about the writing section. Permit me to be a bit general, to protect the innocent. See if a sturdy internet search will give you the latest news on this.</p>
<p>Plans were to have computers grade any essays in the writing sections. That means, some team makes an assumption about what would make a top score: length/number of words, use of targeted vocabulary, etc. The computer is programmed per these variables. The computer cannot test your logic, the manner in which you carry through an argument, etc. It can look for word strings, increasing use of superior phrasing, but it's not a human brain. Tests were run to compare computer scores versus human scoring. </p>
<p>What this means to you is: there is simply going to be wide differences in whether or not a school is impressed by that section.</p>
<p>I am also in that boat. Ok M and CR scores (710 and 680 respectively for a M + CR 1390), and that killer writing score of 790 (12 essay) = 2180...</p>
<p>lookingforward, they have not yet implemented the machine-scoring; your point is obsolete. The truth of the matter is, many colleges consider the writing section to be just as important as an SAT II. However, many other colleges weight it equally with M and CR, with some (very few) weigh it somewhere in between</p>
<p>"In 2005, MIT Professor Les Perelman was able to plot essay length versus essay score on the new SAT from released essays. The correlation found between them was strikingly high. He argued that he was able to hold up an essay just far enough away to be illegible, and guess what the score of the essay was from the length and shape of it. He was correct 89% of the time."</p>
<p>If this is true, then that seriously undermines the credibility of the essay section of the Writing section at least.
I found the writing section quite difficult as I favour longer, constructed, rambling sentences that seem to have no point but carry on indefinitely, and just when you think youve gotten to the end of the sentence, a comma appears out of nowhere and tags another bit on to the sentence which you hadnt really bargained for so there were obviously problems when people prefer short, brief sentences which get to the point without excessive usage of adjectives or repetition, which, just to reinforce the point again, i have an acute propensity to do, occasionally, but hopefully not always, to the extent where the "sentence" doesnt actually make sense anymore.</p>
<p>Anyway, im secretly slightly hoping that the writing section isnt as important. I got 800 V, 780 M, 660 W (8 essay - thought this one was awesome) first time, and the second resit i got 800V, 800M, 740W (8 essay again, although this was really quite bad). a 1580 and 1600 looks rather a bit better than the scores when the writing section is factored in.</p>
<p>Anyway, I was just wondering if there were any colleges that people know for certain that dont put as much emphasis on this section. The UC system probably does consider it seriously, as it was in response to criticism from them that the SAT's were changed in the first place.</p>
<p>I'm unfamiliar with this new scoring. There are two scores for the writing section, so that you could get a 740 and an 8? Is it part multiple choice, part essay? I thought by definition the writing section was an essay.</p>
<p>writing section counts for ucs equally i believe; however, for the majority of privates it is treated as a sat 2 =D happy b/c i personally got a 630 for writing =-D</p>
<p>just want to remark i totally agree that the written essay on the sat is definetely not an indication on how well one writes...i mean i got a 11 on my essay w/o knowing any grammar...seriously they only measure the length and compute a score...</p>