<p>I got in under "Business Economics (Pre)" and I was wondering how that major was at UCSB?</p>
<p>me too.... how is business econ? (stupid word limit haha)</p>
<p>me too! i wanna know too since that's where i'm at.</p>
<p>bus econ is the most popular major at ucsb. many students come into ucsb as bus econ majors. many more change into it after they realize they can't hack it in engineering or biology. it is fairly competitive by ucsb standards, but a joke compared to ucla econ/accounting courses</p>
<p>"a joke compared to UCLA bus. econ/accting"</p>
<p>Check out the Econ Dept. faculty ---> <a href="http://www.econ.ucsb.edu/cgi-bin/faculty.cgiy%5B/url%5D">http://www.econ.ucsb.edu/cgi-bin/faculty.cgiy</a> </p>
<p>Do you seriously think it's a joke? Classes are hard and some students are failing. They're using premajor GPA (econ, calc, stats, accting) as a weeder. Just because UCLA has more prestige doesn't mean UCSB econ dept is a joke! FYI, my prof in Intermed. Macroecon is Fynn Kydland, 2004 Nobel laureate in Economics!</p>
<p>i have a unique perspective, having been a student at both ucsb and ucla. i can confidently say that econ classes at ucsb are a joke, compared to ucla classes. if ucsb econ is so good, how many ucsb econ phd's do you see on college faculties??? how bout for ucla econ phds???? I have nothing against ucsb or its econ dept. i just think it is much, much easier than ucla.</p>
<p>If you're smart enough you would not compare apples to oranges. The subject is undergraduate business econ/accting major! It's all about the faculty members who pick the books and teach the materials. If you really think they're not brilliant maybe UCSB should pick professors who got their PhD here instead of MIT, Stanford, UCLA, Berkeley....</p>
<p>When u say it's a joke it reflects the teachers who teach the materials. But these teachers are exceptional per their resume.</p>
<p>considering the competitive academic job market, nearly every school or department has professors from prestigious universities. So instead of comparing which schools ucsb professors attended, you should see where ucsb econ phds/ma's/ba's have ended up. where has one ucsb econ phd landed a professorship?? how bout ucla econ phds??? This is a point that i have brought up in an earlier post, but you seem to have convenient forgotten/ignored.</p>
<p>As a student who've attended both schools, i must say that ucla classes are, by far, much challenging, where as ucsb classes were nowhere as difficult. you take my claims personally and i am sorry you were deeply offended. ucsb isn't a bad school, and you should be proud of recieving a ucsb diploma. but don't hate cuz a ucla diploma required much harder coursework. i guess ucsb econ was too difficult for you to get top grades and eventually transfer, something I am glad to have done. since we're comparing two econ departments, we're not really comparing apples and oranges. unless you were really intrigued by the plethora of apples and oranges problems in the econ 100ab workbook. i suppose no two things are alike and can be considered comparing apples to oranges. econ100ab, by the way, was complete ******** since it was 100% multiple choice.</p>
<p>i like ucsb, but ucsb econ is a joke. but, still, be proud of your alma mater.</p>
<p>just to lighten things up.... <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=48553%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=48553</a></p>
<p>sixthbatter, why did you transfer? UCSB seems like a nice place to go to school.</p>
<p>also sixthbatter: how hard was it to transfer... do you know many others that transferred away from ucsb as well? was ucla your first choice but you did not get accepted for freshman yr?</p>
<p>it's easy to transfer if you have a 3.5+. From my freshman floor of 25-26, 4 guys are now at ucla.</p>
<p>why did i transfer???? job prospects and ucla's architecture. ucsb's surroundings are goegeous, but their buildings are kinda like those from my local jc. try getting an investment banking job as a ucsb grad. they don't recruit at ucsb. they don't even recruit at ucsd. i just got back from new york for an ibanking interview. couldnt have done that with ucsb.</p>
<p>sixthbatter: i heard that ucsb has a very good accounting program though, that the bizecon with emphasis in accounting prepares people very well for the cpa exam. and the big 4 cpa firms are constantly recruiting. is that a lie?</p>
<p>awakenedream: i never mentioned anything negative about ucsb's accounting program. you ask as if i had. perhaps you are confused. i mentioned ibanking, not accounting.</p>
<p>ucsb has an accounting program. csun also has an accounting program. long beach state and cal state LA have accounting programs too. and they all get recruited by the big 4. can one really say that ucsb prepares students "very well for the cpa exam?" if such data were available, you just might be able to make that claim.</p>
<p>the accounting firms recruit regionally. if your goal is to find work in an accounting firm in la, sd or sf, ucsb might be the school for you, provided that you have the grades.</p>
<p>Sixthbatter UCSB has an excellent accounting program, with a very high pass rate on the CPA exam</p>
<p>I just transferred out of UCSB (I was Bus Econ) and am still deciding between Econ at U of Chicago or at Georgetown. Business Econ at UCSB is the most popular major at UCSB, so it is a huge hassle getting into smaller upper-division classes. Also, expect classes with over 200 hundred people for your lower-division and some upper-divisons. When it comes to professors, I've actually had some great ones.</p>
<p>I simply was not happy with my education at UCSB. If you enjoy hearing people brag about how drunk they still are while waiting for Econ 101 to start, this is definitely the place for you. I found most of the students completely lacking in ambition and intellect. Most students join this major because they aren't really sure what they want to do with their life, aren't really that great at any particular subject, but know they want to be rich. There are exceptions, but my biggest problem was that I was completely uninspired by my peers...they almost made it too easy. Econ classes at UCSB definitely require time in and out of class (I wouldn't say many classes are a definite, easy A) but add the fact that most of the students aren't willing to put in any time and you've just shot ahead to the top of the curve very easily. This is a plus, but I decided I was much more willing to really struggle at a top econ program that teaches progressive ideas, not just basic material.</p>
<p>that is a plus to me and why i want to go to ucsb. Not only are the students less motivated, but the college is a true residential campus compared to the majority. Is is the best thing that students arent as motivated. No, but is it the worst thing, no. It benifits you grade wise. Does this environment provide stimulating conversations. Probably not, something i do enjoy. But i will be able to have 2 enjoyable years with a good gpa from a recognized school. Not to mention, ibanking isnt my dream, i want to start of in accouting or at a money managing firm. </p>
<p>And possibly econ classes are easier at ucsb because those were general req while ucla classes are grad. Possibly so, i have seen students work from both ucr and ucla and they are similar enough.</p>
<p>I was an Bus/Econ with the emphasis in Accounting major and got a job at Four accounting firm straight out of school. UCSB has great Econ great program taught by faculty holding PHD's from top Ivy league schools, and we have Nobel Prize winner Fynn Kydland (Economics). Tier 1 school + Social environment= UCSB . Waking up to the sound of waves crashing and getting a good education.....priceless.</p>
<p>very old post. just posting in case someone comes across this.
this guy is an idiot.
i’ve gone to both schools. both are challenging
you can’t compare lower level classes at one school to upper level classes at another school and call that apples to apples. or maybe you had to retake some classes once you got to UCLA because you withdrew or falied in a previous attempt at UCSB…then that would make sense.<br>
you were only posting on here to make yourself feel better about yourself.</p>