How is UCLA viewed in the East Coast?

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<p>I'm not sure if this is the right forum to post this thread but please let me start off:</p>

<p>How is UCLA viewed in the East Coast? (both general public & employment view)</p>

<p>I'm asking this question because I've been thinking of working in the East Coast in the future (about 2 years) after graduation...</p>

<p>Kind of worried that east coasters will disregard & look down on me because I've graduated from a public univ. in the West Coast...</p>

<p>I'd like to hear from east coasters! Thanks in advance.</p>

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<p>I’m in the academic world, and UCLA generally is very well thought of here. Perhaps a notch below Berkeley, but certainly a major research university with strong programs in many fields. When I was applying to colleges forty years ago, it might have had something of a volleyball, beach, plaything campus, but no longer. I don’t know what employers think of UCLA grads in particular majors, but I’d give a close look at their PhD grads in my field.</p>

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<p>Viewed by whom? If you’re asking viewed by savvy national employers, or graduate schools deans, then very very highly. If you mean by very local employers or your next door neighbor then why does it matter?</p>

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<p>Outside of California, most people won’t care either way that you went to UCLA.</p>

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<p>UCLA is a pretty famous school over the US but that is because of the sports. </p>

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<p>c.f.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-california-los-angeles/1332817-ucla-recognition-east-coast.html”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-california-los-angeles/1332817-ucla-recognition-east-coast.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/1332813-ucla-recognition-perception-east-coast.html”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/1332813-ucla-recognition-perception-east-coast.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>UCLA’s always been popular with those from New York City. There are many kids from NYC who at worst aspire to attend UCLA summer sessions, if not many who aspire to attend college at the U, though the latter would best be described as “strong” in number. UCLA’s connection to the eastcoast probably subsequently extended to Connecticut and Mass (and probably has always been “decent” in these other two). Outside of these regions, probably not so much, in places like Pennsylvania, and elsewhere, extending to the southern states along the coast. </p>

<p>The NYC connection to UCLA started with those who came to CA from NYC during the 50’s-60’s, who aspired to send their kids to UCLA especially within UC because of its cheap resident tuition, coupled with the U’s high quality. Consequently UCLA’s always has had a strong Jewish connection, because eastcoast Jews were feeling a deep-seated discrimination within their locales with many of the colleges there not taking them because of their religion/heritage except for the city (mainly, now considered “state”) colleges of NY. </p>

<p>Later many of these grads settled on the Westside of LA, and this is one of the reasons why WLA has a strong Jewish presence. Somewhat of the same with the Persian connection now, though these latter settled in WLA mainly because of the already present wealth factor and the RE to where they could invest in high-yielding property.</p>

<p>So UCLA’s always had a connection with parts of the EC. With the U enrolling more non-residents, I think the apps will continue to rise from all over the states, including NY in particular, and its surrounding states. As more non-resident students continue to enroll, and OOS students see this trend, UCLA’s other states’ rep will continue to grow as some return to their originating states.</p>

<p>And it’s generally not a question of UCLA being a public U. There are so many other things that override this, including the U’s location, with it being a dream spot for many college students to land – things that we in CA tend to take for granted, but for which many from outside of the region, including Int’ls, would not. And consequently because of their not taking things for granted at UCLA and in CA in general, many from the other states who do attend UCLA probably do have intentions to stay, though hopefully many return to their home states, though the employment prospects of CA do outpace just about any other location. </p>

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<p>I’m not sure if I was subliminally affected in my previous post by Dr. Randy Schekman’s keynote [speech](<a href=“2014 UCLA College Commencement Ceremony I 2pm - YouTube”>2014 UCLA College Commencement Ceremony I 2pm - YouTube) at UCLA Commencement, 2014 for L&S. He was awarded a Nobel in 2013, and his background was somewhat similar to what I posted earlier: Jewish in heritage; middle class background with a family “migrating” from another state, Minnesota, though not from the EC per my previous post; family and he paid $270 in tuition/fees in 1966, his freshman year.</p>

<p>Nice speech, as he recognizes the 1st Gen college grads at [1:38:50[/url</a>] (be sure to close the folders or the video will keep running), and the Pell Grantees at [url=&lt;a href=“2014 UCLA College Commencement Ceremony I 2pm - YouTube”&gt;2014 UCLA College Commencement Ceremony I 2pm - YouTube]1:39:30[/url</a>].</p>

<p>A couple points I somewhat disagreed:</p>

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<li><p>He stated that it costs more on average (I imagine) for a middle-class student to attend a UC rather than an elite private institution, [url=&lt;a href=“2014 UCLA College Commencement Ceremony I 2pm - YouTube”&gt;2014 UCLA College Commencement Ceremony I 2pm - YouTube] 1:44:22](<a href=“2014 UCLA College Commencement Ceremony I 2pm - YouTube”>2014 UCLA College Commencement Ceremony I 2pm - YouTube). This is where local context comes into play, and where students can save room and board by getting to campus from home.</p></li>
<li><p>Later, he stated that in 1966 the state funded ~80% of UC’s budget and only 10% now at [1:42:49](<a href=“2014 UCLA College Commencement Ceremony I 2pm - YouTube”>2014 UCLA College Commencement Ceremony I 2pm - YouTube). This is a bit misleading because of the following after a cursory search:</p></li>
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<p>1980-81: UC Budget was $3.8 B; and was funded by the State, $1B; or ~ 26% State Funding
2001-02: Budget: $16.1B; Funded: $3.3B (Peak funding), ~ 21%
2012-13: Budget: $24.0B, Funded: $2.4B (has receded last 4 or so years); ~ 10% (Per his speech)</p>

<p>In my cursory search, I couldn’t find info back to 1966, Dr. Schekman’s first year at UCLA. But if we see the UC budget was ~ $4B back 1980-81, I would guess it would have to be ~ $1-2B in 1966. So this means the state would have taken ~ $.8-1.6B from the State General Fund.</p>

<p>Adjusted for an ~ COLA estimate of 700%+ from 1966 to ~ present (let’s say salaries lagged from actual inflation, and let’s say the UC budget was $1.2B in 1966, we have this comparison from the years as follows:</p>

<p>1966-67: UC Budget: $1.2B (rough guesstimate), State Funding: ~ $1.0B, 80% Funded per his notes. </p>

<p>2012-2013: 2.4/24=10% Funded, actual. Adjusted $ from 1966, using 700% inflation over all those years, $24B becomes $3.4B, so crudely, the actual budget over those years has grown ~280% adjusted for 1966 $’s, and the funding for 2012 would still be $2.4B, which -> the adjusted % funding from state would = 2.4/3.4 or ~ 71%. So the state has grown the funding over the “actual” growth of the U (the system), but not quite in line with the 80% it did in 1966, assuming that most COLA wasn’t quite employed in salaries, etc.</p>

<p>So this stupid exercise of mine has yielded that his citing of 10% and 80% is somewhat off. That UC is now a $24B/year operation means that the state wouldn’t be able to continue its funding at the same rate of inflation and the U’s growth because of income to the state that doesn’t grow at inflation’s rate.</p>

<p>But otherwise I enjoyed his speech, even if he at times seemed preachy, and he is all about Cal now. He’s a great ambassador for the UC system, and he obviously cares for the U itself.</p>

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<p>UCLA is internationally famous. U see people all over the world wearing UCLA shirts. My friends in Germany call it “ookla”</p>

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<p>Actually, the reason why we don’t inflate or deflate funding to the UC from the state’s general fund is because * “what it gives to UC is what it gives.”* It’s evident that UC is receiving a significantly less portion of the pie of revenues to the state, but at the same time, UC couldn’t continue to expect the portion of funding it received. State gen funds is in $100’s of billions not some unlimited supply, though funding of UC students’ educations (and CSU’s) would doubtlessly pull up the state even more.</p>

<p>Kareem Abdul-Jabbar’s speech begins at [1:09:39[/url</a>], and goes on for about six minutes. Very literate, if not exceptionally delivered speech. Probably has to remember more of his delivered speech, so he can continue on without hesitating and refinding where he is on the page.</p>

<p>And Dr. Schekman’s speech actually begins [url=<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LyWuclvaLk&t=1h29m27s”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LyWuclvaLk&t=1h29m27s&lt;/a&gt;] here](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LyWuclvaLk&t=1h9m39s]1:09:39[/url”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LyWuclvaLk&t=1h9m39s), and goes on for about 15 minutes. Prior link was just to the commencement video from point 00:00.</p>

<p>Also, he stated, “Public universities are the most effective engine of social mobility…” And elsewhere he says something like, “UC is the most important university in the country.” Undoubtedly, unquestionably true for the first, and arguably true for the second. The shear size of UC and it being a $24B/year operation would doubtlessly place his claim as forthright and truly legitimate. The U’s various affiliations ensure good for the state, country, and the world. </p>

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<p>Undoutedly, UCLA’s int’l rep is strong and it surpasses its other states’ rep, esp for the eastcoast within the latter.</p>