<p>Do SAT IIs count that much for admission? I've heard from some people that they don't really matter as long as you're in a certain range and from others I've heard that they're just as important as SAT Is.</p>
<p>they can be helpful, granted you do well on them.. i personally think they can be important</p>
<p>I've heard several colleges indicate that they're quite important, since they actually indicate what you've learned, not just... whatever it is that SAT Reasoning indicates.</p>
<p>if you have good sat I scores and disparate sat IIs (790 and 720) - will that lower score negatively affect the admissions decision by a lot?</p>
<p>apparently Harvard is starting to put more weight on them, not sure about Yale though....</p>
<p>Good scores help (800=great, 750-790=good), and less-than-stellar by Yale standards are just kind of ignored unless they're sub-700 if you ask me. But you need enough things to stand out to garner admission - a 1600 or close to it on your two SAT II's can help tremendously.</p>
<p>milesmiles- is there really any sort of perceptual difference between a 790 and an 800 on the SAT IIs? I mean, that's only one question difference.</p>
<p>I don't really know. Now that I look back it really depends on the exam. A sub-800 Math II is significant because 800 is only about 90th percentile, while an 800 on US History/Lit is 99th percentile (and thus can come down to a bit of a crapshoot).</p>
<p>But there is a reason for the percentile disparities. A lot more people take the US History/Lit exams than the Math II exams. The percentiles are based on the people that take the exams and the sample group of people taking the Math II exams tend to be a) much smaller and b) self-select themselves into a higher level than the US History/Lit exams. (Okay, so I will admit, my Math II score was the lowest out of all 4 of my SAT IIs.)</p>
<p>Will it hurt me significantly to have not taken any SAT II's? I've taken both the SAT I and ACT, and saw that they were optional, and thought, "Screw it, I'm done with standardized tests."</p>
<p>"Yale requires applicants to submit the College Entrance Examination Board (CEEB) Scholastic Assessment Test (SAT I) and any two SAT II Subject Tests, or the American College Test (ACT)."</p>
<p>I think they're only optional if you opt for the ACT. They're required if you only submit SAT reasoning.</p>
<p>Edit: oops pressed post to early</p>
<p>So if your ACTs are high enough, I woudln't worry about it, but if you're hoping that your SAT scores are going to carry you I'd go take two more SAT2s</p>
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<p>Data? Interesting/unexpected claim.</p>
<p>Now I may be misinterpreting the "number of students" category, but it should at least show the relative amount of test takers - and Math II has more than US/Lit.</p>
<p>so will a 720 us history hurt me a little? the score report said it was only like 86% percentile (my other one is 800 mat ii)</p>
<p>I guess a 720 demonstrates competence, not the lack of it, so it probably won't hurt you. I will just not help you.</p>
<p>Do you know if 4 * 800's (chem,physics, bio, math IIC) helps more than 2 800's subject test? I just am curious to know. Or do they ignore 2 scores and take only 2 800's in consideration.</p>
<p>Oops. You're right milessmiles. I just assumed something from the percentile data without any facts backing my statements. Then the percentile data is the way it is just because of the way the Math II is scaled.</p>
<p>As for which tests they take into consideration, my admissions officer said that they take the two highest scores from the most recent tests. How they deal with three tests, all the same score, taken on the same date, who knows? Since they see all four, I guess it only serves to help you. On a conscious level it shouldn't matter. Subconsciously, maybe it gives you a little boost.</p>