<p>A few of my friends in College insist that SAT IIs really don't count for anything, especially in Admissions. They say that SAT IIs are only looked at by Admissions Officers if you're neck to neck with another applicant.</p>
<p>Do they really matter that much? Or are they just necessary for specific majors and have little relavance in Admissions?</p>
<p>Any feedback would be appreciated! </p>
<p>Thanks a lot</p>
<p>Personally, I don't think they'd count THAT much....but I'm probably wrong and hopeful.</p>
<p>"Don't count for anything" is almost certainly an exaggeration, particularly for students who have lots of 800s to show. Believe it or not, it does take a degree of dedication (or intelligence) to get a top score.</p>
<p>However, I think it's pretty difficult to say exactly how much or how little they really do count.</p>
<p>anyone who says that the sat ii's count for very little is clueless. The SAT ii's, if it weren't for the ranking (like u.s. news) would probably be considered more impt than the sat i. Why? B/c major researchers and educational psychometricians have found that the sat ii's have greater validity and are more accurate in predicting a freshman's gpa in college than the sat i. It's just that simple (please see the University of California study) The only reason that the sat i matters more is b/c school rankings are equated so that a schools average sat scores count heavily in determining a school's rankings. The sat ii's currently cannot be used to determine rankings b/c diff. students take diff. sat ii's, so using this more accurate measurement tool would only complicate matters for magazine ranking staff. So in short, sat ii's may not matter as much as the sat i, but they certainly matter a great, great deal, especially at schools where they are required.</p>
<p>not to mention that most of the schools require at least 2-3 ...Especially top schools</p>
<p>For the top schools: a lot.</p>
<p>Coluhopeful: lol for using the word "psychometricians"</p>
<p>How bad is a 700 Math IIc? I also got a 730 US hist. I want to go to a top B-school like Wash U or Cornell. Wash U and the school in Cornell that I want to apply to don't actually require SAT IIs if you take the ACT so would it help/hurt or be neutral?</p>
<p>Taking the sat ii will help you in your admission to those schools. A good score on a standarized test is a good score on a standarized test, even if it isn't required! I argue abt this with people all of the time, but if I was an admissions officer, I would use every piece of helpful information available in order to make wise, and thoughtful, choices as to which students I would accept. It's also more intuitive to believe that people are influenced by what they read on an application, even if they aren't supposed to base their judgement on it. So in short, even if Wash U. and Cornell don't ask to see high sat ii scores, such as those you earned, SEND them. I bet you won't regret it!</p>
<p>So you think the 700 Math II is good? My SAT I score is also not great - not nearly as good as the ACT - 640 M 690 R 670 W and my ACT is 31 (or 32 the way Cornell calculates it - mixing scores). So, do you still think I'm better off sending it?</p>
<p>without a doubt, send those scores! First of all, your sat i scores aren't bad at all. They will serve you well in the admissions process. Remember: the vast majority of schools have the 25th percentile of sat i scores sent to them well below the 1330 you have earned. So you are definately ahead of the game overall, and well within the average scores for accepted students for cornell and for wash. u. SEND THE SCORES!</p>