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<p>The actions led to the suspension, which in turn led to ruination.</p>
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<p>I have to agree. As I said before, this is going to hurt you with Harvard and Yale. You might have to set your sights a lot lower, like Princeton or even Stanford. I know it’s brutal but you could of course transfer.</p>
<p>" You might have to set your sights a lot lower, like Princeton or even Stanford."</p>
<p>A lot lower than Princeton or Stanford, which are highly ranked, too, and aren’t likely to take someone with two academic violations.</p>
<p>You got screwed by your school. Go appeal the suspension to your superintendent.</p>
<p>I think it will be quite detrimental, given that many top schools throw you out if you cheat or plagiarize on just one of their essays or tests.</p>
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<p>Fine! Maybe he should consider Brown or Cornell, contingent on substantial merit aid and his choice of luxury automobile. </p>
<p>In all seriousness though, academic dishonesty violations can be even more serious than, say, a disciplinary referral for being tardy a lot or something. It’s on par with arson or involvement in a terrorist organization as far as how serious colleges take it.</p>
<p>yeah, it really depends on the college. you might just have to hope they will forgive you…</p>
<p>@Northstarmom:</p>
<p>It’s okay, not everyone understands sarcasm. ;)</p>
<p>i agree with saugus. if the situation is exactly as you have described and the suspension is unjust (which i doubt, but who knows?), you should certainly, without a doubt appeal to the superintendent. i suspect, however, that you know the suspension was just and that you are withholding aspects of your story. if you truly don’t deserve the suspension, you NEED to appeal. otherwise, as everyone has said, you are out of contention for HYPS, etc.</p>
<p>There’s a kid from my school who let a guy cheat off him on a test - he got 1 day suspension, but it will be expunged and the GC won’t mention it to colleges. The guy was supposedly threatening to beat him up and the teacher wasn’t there at the time of the test (i know, terrible teacher) … but still, I had never heard of schools expunging suspensions before. do u think it’s fair? </p>
<p>on a more general note…how do you compare letting someone cheat off you vs. cheating off someone?</p>
<p>If someone threatened to beat you up unless you let him cheat off of you… Then you better do what he says and just report the incident immediately after so he can be accordingly punished. You save yourself a lot of trouble by not being a smartass and trying to fight against someone who can hurt you.</p>
<p>As for teachers not proctoring exams… Professors never proctor their exams in Princeton University. They just hand them out and leave until the test is over. Students are entirely responsible for themselves and are obligated to report instances of cheating, as per their honor code. It works quite well too. So I wouldn’t necessarily call teachers “horrible” for not wanting to waste time staring at a virtually motionless room.</p>
<p>(Willingly letting someone cheat off of you because you are friends/because you can is different. That constitutes a severe academic violation, and is no different than cheating off of someone, probably worse.)</p>
<p>I would recommend resolving the issue with your school bureaucracy. If you can get it removed, or have a GC send an accompanying letter explaining the specifics and why she thinks they are not significant grounds for not being accepted, then you have a chance. However, many of the top colleges have very serious honor codes, and violating them before you even set foot on campus doesn’t look good. Competitive colleges have very little reason already to accept one qualified applicant over another, and you’ve given them a very compelling argument to immediately discard your application.</p>
<p>Case in point: I read an article in the NYTimes Magazine about a zillionth generation Princeton legacy with a perfect GPA from a well-regarded prep school, in addition to the focused, impressive ECs that CC is so fond of harping on. One drinking infraction (he went to boarding school for a bit) put him out of the running. He is, however, happily at UVA from what the article tells me.</p>
<p>Saugus said: You got screwed by your school. Go appeal the suspension to your superintendent.</p>
<p>WRONG!! Aristocrat screwed himself! He was not even honest in his initial posting on this thread. It took questions from other posters to get more of the story. Welcome to Podunk U.</p>
<p>Sorry Aristocrat! Lomponmyleft was the OP.</p>
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<p>Lolwut? XD</p>
<p>See, this is why CC needs to not set the expire timer for the “edit” function so low… Now people who skim posts are going to think I plagiarized. (another instance of my username screwing me over since it’s the only one that gets stuck in people’s heads…)</p>
<p>REALLY sorry Aristocrat :-(</p>
<p>I know, I know, no worries, it happens ;)</p>
<p>the blow job(and yes it was a “he”) happened in our junior year…he was suspended for 9 weeks of school and just had the GC put it on his records with a short note…</p>
<p>he was a pretty stellar applicant though</p>
<p>^yes, it’s not like they’re reserved for one sex or the other. haha, i would really like to read the GC’s note. btw, super weird question, but how were they caught?!</p>
<p>EDIT: nine weeks is a long time! wow!</p>
<p>They got caught by our stuco advisor
funny thing is, the kid who gave the blow job supposedly isn’t even gay…he still dates girls</p>
<p>that would be incredibly awkward!</p>
<p>uh-huh. sure he isn’t…</p>
<p>^^He could be bi</p>