<p>For musical theatre BFA programs?</p>
<p>MTboy13 - I don’t think anyone can answer this one for you. Many schools with BFA MT programs are private, so there is no in-state vs out-of-state tuition difference. The COA for the schools on my D’s list ranged from $26,000 to almost $60,000. That’s before academic/talent money and student loans, so those variables will all have to be added in when you get to the actual cost for you. And they may vary wildly as well. She has received from $10,000 to $28,000 in academic/talent awards so far. Pretty big swing in the bottom line there.</p>
<p>I created a spreadsheet that listed all the schools on her list with the COA and then listed scholarship “deductions” as they have come in. It’s a good way to look at what YOU will actually be paying to go to that school. You can then deduct any student loans, outside scholarships, etc. to see the “final” cost.</p>
<p>Hope this helped!</p>
<p>Are you asking what the typical OOS tuition is for state schools? (Because private school tuition is the same for both in-state and oos.) It depends on the school. State schools D looked at…</p>
<p>Wright State University BFA MT - OOS tuition is about $15,000 (has to be consided one of the best values around… great program/training for a great price)</p>
<p>Penn State University BFA MT - OOS tuition is about $27,000</p>
<p>University of Michigan BFA MT - OOS tuition is $34,937</p>
<p>Of course you have to add in the typical $9,000 to $12,000 for room and meal plan (but that would be typical no matter where you went). And then take off financial aid and talent awards. Add in travel costs to oos school.</p>
<p>I don’t think you can look at it terms of the “average” person since so much depends on one’s financial aid package. And if you’re not asking about oos tuition at state schools, then your question really comes down to…what is the cost of attendance for BFA programs in general - before financial aid is considered.</p>
<p>I’m just curious what people are paying to go to school out of state for BFA programs (after financial id and everything). Does it still end up expensive for most people?</p>
<p>My D attended OCU which is a private school so the cost is the same regardless of your home state. The cost of attendence increased each year, and by her senior year it was up to about $32,000 per year, including room and board. That is before scholarships and fianancial aid. She lived in the newest dorm and took the minimum meal plan.</p>
<p>My son who also goes to OCU, isn’t paying anything out of pocket after scholarships and loans (which WILL be out of pocket). But he sort of lives here and there and eats, what ever, so while probably not a good idea it does save him a ton of $$.</p>
<p>^^But he sort of lives here and there and eats, what ever…</p>
<p>Rehearsing the starving artist role? :)</p>
<p>My D was accepted into both out of state publics (4) and privates (3). With the exception of 1 out of state public that offered her a diversity scholarship that waived out-of-state tuition in addition to the academic scholarship there was no way we could afford the out-of-state publics. It seemed from our experience of 1 that unless D qualified for the top academic scholarships there was no way we could afford out of state publics. D had many lovely acceptances, but her first choice was a out-of- state public that offered her a 2000 academic scholarship and 7000 in work/loans and there was no way we could make up the difference. She will be attending a private school and is very happy with her choice.</p>
<p>Keepingcalm:</p>
<p>If you don’t mind me asking, where was your D accepted to and where did she end up attending?</p>
<p>MTboy,
D is attending Point Park in dance. We are in Ohio with many options for theatre. She was accepted at Ohio university - dance and straight theatre -did not like the program at all but we made her apply, Otterbein theatre and dance, Shenandoah, University of Iowa, University of Missouri - KC (waived out of state), Indiana U. dance, oh and College of Charleston which is a BA theatre no audition.
D is a dancer who sings, so focused on dance programs with theatre/MT options. In some places this required auditions/interviews for both, some the dance was all but she would be able to audition and/or take MT classes.
If you want more specifics please PM, I would be happy to tell you more</p>
<p>MTboy - what state are you in? Are there any MT programs at any of your state universities?</p>
<p>MTboy- just don’t rule out any out-of-state programs because of cost. Some of those private schools give large enough scholarships that it knocks the cost down to the equivalent or less than in-state public schools. Even some out-of-state public schools will give a scholarship to make the cost equivalent to in-state cost (or less).</p>
<p>I would agree with takeitallin that many private schools give scholarships that make the cost equivalent to in-state public schools. It is much more rare for out-of-state publics to be able to do the same (although not impossible).</p>
<p>I think just as it is important to have safety schools based on academics, or non-audition, it is equally important to have a financial safety school. </p>
<p>There are state universities that get little or no mention on these boards, just because they are not well-known on the national level. That is not to say that they do not provide training that can be as good or better than schools who have a high profile on the discussion boards. That may not be the case where you live, but it is certainly worth investigating.</p>
<p>There are at least a few states that have reciprocity with neighboring states/counties for instate tuition - it is worth checking whether you have anything like that where you live.</p>
<p>We are also picking ourselves up after recieving our Financial Aid packages. 3 schools are out of state and private, one in state and private. My d first choice is an out of state private. It is obvious the Parents Plus loan amounts all fall within a few hundred dollars of our EFC from the FAFSA. Our loan amounts are staggering to say the least, regardless of which school she attends. </p>
<p>After the freshman year does the our of pocket or Parent loan amount decrease at all? Will more scholarship go to returning students? I guess I am hoping for some encouragement that the first yr is the most expensive and it gets better as she returns each yr. Does anyone have any feedback on this?</p>
<p>Mom at home. I can only comment on the school my daughter attends, but no, actually it gets worse every year as the cost of tuition, room and board has increased every year, but the initial merit scholarship award stays the same for all four years and there are no additional scholarships available for returning students, no matter how well they do in the program. So choose carefully and ask a lot of questions up front about whether more could be expected later. I wouldn’t count on it. And yes, it was also sad for us that some of the programs my daughter was accepted to (she had some great options) were just completely impossible for us financially.</p>
<p>Are you calculating a 5% per year tuition rate increase per year? It may or may not be that high but I would allow that much just in case. I know it’s shocking. When my daughter was an infant I read a Business Week article that said to expect tuitiion for 4 years at a private college to equal 200,000 by 2010. I always kept that number in mind, my husband didn’t believe it, so he stopped saving when he thought we’d saved enough and kept the money in the stock market. Well, then it dropped. It’s risen since but it was not enough to send her to her dream school. Oh yes, on top of that she transferred and is on the five year track!</p>
<p>sandkmom, Yes, it goes along with what he said at one time, we are getting these wonderful expensive educations so we can live in cardboard boxes. The thing is when he started all of this we just decided to take it one step at a time, and while it has been rough to keep him going and make ends meet it has worked out. The light is at the end of the tunnel and it has been semester by semester but he will graduate from the program of his choice. Because he has gone to college on a shoe string it has toughened him up and he really appreciates the things and the opportunity he has. He has also started to learn and little “hustle” which can only help out in this crazy business.</p>
<p>srw, my S, actually looks forward to his future starving artist days and thinks they will help build character! Certainly sounds true for your S. Success will be that much sweeter! Congrats and best of luck to him! :)</p>
<p>I honestly don’t think you can calculate what the average person pays. I am going to the College of Santa Fe which is a VERY long way from home for me and not paying a sent for my education. I got very lucky and am very blessed for this. I honestly say if this is the field you are going in for you need to work hard on academics and on your auditions so you can get scholarships, and talent things just like I did. I know many friend who got tons of scholarships and full rides as well. The average person can honestly pay 0-50,000 a year for an out of state college, it really all depends on what they are offered. Most school that are up there in price however offer you some type of money and if not money some type of loan or work study to help pay off your education. However that being said it is a very expensive thing to do for a lot of people, you just really have to go on what you know is right for you.</p>
<p>Joyci1991,
None of your full ride includes loans? I wanted to be clear on this. In any case congratulations on your good fortune. Sante Fe is one of the most beautiful places on earth. That’s why so many artists flocked there.</p>