How Neccesary are the SAT's for gettin into Ivy leagues?

Hey, i am a long time reader, first time writter. To anyone who cares to answer me, could they please tell me how an average (well its a bit above average) SAT score will affect my chances at the Ivy leagues. I have incredibly good grades (101 GPA) and am In almost all AP Classes. My standardized tests scores in each of the AP subjects/SAT II’s are near perfect, and i am involved in numerous leadership positions in over 10 clubs/ groups. I also plan to do more volunteering this summer as well. Anyways, i am a pretty well-rounded student who will be in the top 5 of his class at least. My problem is that i cannot seem to do spectacularly on the SAT’s, getting what id consider modest scores. Should i abandon all hope of getting into the upper echelon schools and Ivy league, or is there anything i could do to save and avail myself? Any thoughts and advice would be appreciated, thanks.

<p>try the ACTs. Also some good schools don't require SATs like Bates. I'm sure there must be more.</p>

<p>I'm taking the ACT in june, however, if I were to score really well on it--would colleges ignore a mediocore SAT test score. I mean, I need to send two SAT II's--and I just learned that "every" single SAT is sent along with it. Ugh, can someone answer?</p>

<p>usually they will just take the highest, they have a chart that converts the scores. remember you have to go alot faster on ACTs, but i found the test to be more straight-forward.</p>

<p>Right, but even if you did much worse on the SAT than on the ACT--will they just disregard your SAT score?</p>

<p>Do colleges disregard PLAN tests and sophomore PSATs?</p>

<p>How mediocre is mediocre? I mean, we can't really answer the question if we don't at least know what range of scores you're in.</p>

<p>Here a tool for you to use. Go to <a href="http://www.collegeboard.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.collegeboard.com&lt;/a> and then click on their "college quickfinder" on the left side of the screen. Type in your college name and it would pop up statistic information for your school. Click on admission on the right side and scroll down. It should show you what each school consider "mandatorry", "very important", "important", and "considered" It very helpful to find your best match this way and see where you stand. Good luck</p>

<p>PSATs arent used for admissions..
and Ivies preffer SAT</p>

<p>All Ivy leagues take either the ACT or SAT and have no preference for one over the other. Often, they do not require any SAT II's or fewer SAT II's if you take the ACT. Some students do better on one than the other. You might want to take a practice ACT AND a practice SAT and see which you do better on.</p>

<p>Ok, well I'll use my friend's score; he score an abysmall 1810 on the new SAT, but scored a 33 on the ACT. Would ivy's just accept the higher of the two scores and disregard a horrible SAT score, for a rather awesome ACT score; they do, don't they?</p>

<p>Your best bet would be to check the college website to see what their admission requirements are for the class of 2010. D attends Dartmouth and these are their requirements:</p>

<p>All applicants to Dartmouth, including those who apply from foreign countries, are required to take the following:</p>

<p>Either the Scholastic Assessment Test (SAT I) or the examination of the American College Testing Program (ACT).</p>

<p>Please Note: Students may submit scores from either the old SAT I or the new SAT I (with writing). Similarly, students may submit scores from either the regular ACT (if taken prior to February 2005) or from the ACT with writing (if taken in February 2005 or after).</p>

<p>Any two SAT II Subject Tests. </p>

<p>The TOEFL (Test of English as a Foreign Language) is strongly encouraged for foreign students for whom English is not the principal language of instruction and for non-native speakers of English. TOEFL is given at centers throughout the world and must be taken early enough so that the results are reported to Dartmouth by January of the year of intended entrance. </p>

<p>All testing must be completed by January of the senior year in high school. If standardized testing is repeated, the Admissions Committee only considers your highest scores. Information and test registration forms may be obtained from your high school guidance office or by writing to the College Board or the American College Testing Program. Dartmouth's College Board number is 3351, and the ACT code number is 2508.</p>

<p>Standardized Testing FAQ</p>

<p>What if I have taken the old SAT and the new SAT? Which scores will you use?</p>

<p>It is our intent to evaluate our applicants’ best performance on standardized exams. Accordingly, and recognizing this is a transition year for the new SAT, our evaluation will consider each applicant’s best scores in each area regardless of whether the scores are from the old exam or the new one.</p>

<p>f I have taken the ACT without writing and the ACT with writing? Which scores will you use?</p>

<p>Consistent with our intent to evaluate our applicants’ best performance, we will consider each applicant’s best composite score, and - where available - their writing score. We recognize that this is a transition year for ACT test takers and that not all applicants will submit ACT scores that include the writing component.</p>

<p>f I submit more than the required number of SAT II exam scores?</p>

<p>We will use your highest two SAT II exam scores.</p>

<p>artmouth accept scores from the SAT II Writing exam?</p>

<p>Yes. If the SAT II Writing exam score is one of the applicant’s highest SAT II scores.</p>

<p>artmouth combine sub-scores from different ACT exams?</p>

<p>We will not use sub-scores from different administrations of the ACT to recalculate a new composite score.</p>

<p>Thanks alot sybbie, but if I were to do better on one test than on the other--they wouldn't look at the worse standerized test score, right?</p>

<p>Only submit the ACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>

<p>My roommate at Dartmouth had a 1350 on the SAT but a 35 on the ACT and got in w/o sending the SAT.</p>

<p>Slipper, I need to send two SAT II's--but I heard that the SAT I is sent with it automatically, even if you don't wish to send it. Well yeah, I mean--if I were to do outstanding on my ACT--the school of my choice would still see my SAT scores, wouldn't they?</p>

<p>Because the ACT scores can be converted to an SAT score, if you scored better on your ACT the conversion would most likely be a higher SAT equivalent. Here is one of the many conversion tables you can find that will convert scores. If you can find new one based on converting the new SAT that would be great.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.iastate.edu/%7Einst_res_info/Handbook/ACT_SAT.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.iastate.edu/~inst_res_info/Handbook/ACT_SAT.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>hope this helps</p>

<p>they look at the better score... i'm pretty sure you can send in the SAT IIs without the SAT I. I took the SAT I twice and i only sent in the better one, but this was after the fact, when i was applying to transfer. to be honest with you though, i doubt you will do phenomenally better on the ACT than the SAT. i would try applying anyway but don't put all your eggs in basket.</p>

<p>lol, don't call 1810 absymal...thats pretty mean</p>

<p>they take the better one.</p>

<p>Since there is no longer score choice there is no such thing as sending in the better scores. Now when you submit your scores *all * scores are sent.</p>

<p>Some people tend to do better on the ACTbecause the subjetmatter is more aligned with what is learned in the classroom</p>

<p>ok ill admit my scores: on this last one I got a 1970, but on the March one i got a 2110 (go figure). Anyways, what should i do to improve my chances at top-tier schools?</p>