How need blind is need blind

<p>If the college states that it is need blind for internationals, then does a person who seems to need a lot of financial aid not disadvantaged at all?
Or is it just less likely in the colleges that are need aware.</p>

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<p>Yes, that’s what it means. But admissions officers are also humans, and they can’t really block out all of their subjective feelings when facing a person with a lot of need. </p>

<p>But, yes, that’s what it means, and you’d be that they do try their best to ignore financial needs when considering an applicant for admission.</p>

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<p>No. If the school is need blind, the admissions officers do not see the financial status of the applicant. Students who need financial aid are not disadvantaged at all.</p>

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<p>Yeah right. Common App has a section that make you list your estimated income, and have a place that have you check off to see if you’re applying for financial aid. You can’t really escape that can you? Put down $40,000 for a $200,000 private school and you think they won’t flinch?</p>

<p>The financial aid office and the admissions office are separate entities. If there weren’t a box for checking if you’re applying for financial aid, how would they know if you’re applying for financial aid or not? :confused: The financial aid information is sent to the financial aid office, your application to the admissions office, and the two offices make their decisions independently.</p>

<p>I’m talking about writing an essay about my economic status… Can’t really change it anymore, but I hope they give credit to the fact that I worked hard, not the fact that I am not affluent.</p>

<p>depends…if they run out of funds…then they might not be fully ‘need-blind’…but i hope you will be fine.</p>

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They won’t know. In need-blind institutions, such information is <em>NOT</em> given to admissions department. That’s the whole point of it being need-blind: they’re blind to you need.</p>

<p>thanks techfreak. BTW Have a blessed new years guys. Best of luck in all your endeavors, especially in college admissions. :)</p>

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<p>For common app that section is IN your application so how would the admissions not know when they go over your file? Or do they exclude that from your application? </p>

<p>It also has a section that makes you put what your parents’ jobs are, so there, they can even make a guess from that too. Or is that section also excluded?</p>

<p>In most offices, officers don’t actually get your original application. They get a copy/summary—with need information excluded if the school is need-blind.</p>

<p>They <em>do</em> usually get job info, but that can only help you: in a need-blind institution, admissions is <em>not</em> charged with ensuring the class can pay. Therefore, if anything, they’re more likely to admit a low-income student than a high-income one.</p>

<p>on paper, admissions folks say they are need blind. However, as techfreak said, if they run out of funds (e.g. during an economically bad time such as right now), colleges will go for the students who, while may not be the best, will definitely be able to pay tuition on their own. All this may just be speculation, but I go to a private school, and from our senior class of about 120, 3 got into MIT ED, 3 to Yale ED, and 2 to Stanford ED. I know these people, and don’t really find them to be hypsm material (1 girl had a 33 act, 3.6ish gpa, and didn’t take sat). I suspect those colleges took into account the fact that they are well off and will be able to pay tuition.</p>

<p>Um, no. That’s blatantly false—especially at Yale, Stanford, and MIT. Financial considerations do <em>not</em> enter the consideration of the admissions department. Please don’t try to guess “why” people were admitted—it probably wasn’t because of any ability to pay, especially at top schools. At such institutions, tuition really isn’t even a huge factor.</p>

<p>A far more likely explanation is them being legacies or simply being strong applicants. Please stop spreading misinformation and speculation.</p>

<p>A caveat to this is that some lesser institutions, such as Tufts, will consider need late in the cycle.</p>

<p>It’s not like the admissions committee logs in to your account and sees exactly what you see. When the school receives your application it makes sure to exclude the financial aid information from the folder that goes to the admissions committee.</p>

<p>K, cool, thanks. I get it now.</p>

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<p>Did you read their application from top to bottom? Then please don’t speculate as to why they were accepted. Those institutions are need-blind. And just as a side note, MIT is EA, and Stanford and Yale are SCEA, not ED.</p>

<p>Colleges who “run out of funds” will state that they are no longer need blind. Note how even the top colleges with billions of dollars in endowment are not need blind to international students.</p>

<p>MIT : There is also a perception (mostly wrong) that when it comes to borderline applicants colleges make their admissions decisions in light of who is going to cost them less (in other words, who can afford to pay for their own education). This is also not true.</p>

<p>Harvard: Admission to Harvard is need-blind, by which we mean that financial need is not an impediment to admission. International students have the same access to financial aid as United States citizens.</p>

<p>Petersons definition:
If a school practices “need-blind admissions,” it means that there is an invisible firewall of sorts between the admissions and financial aid offices, and the admissions officers are unaware of your financial circumstances when they evaluate your application. However, they may be able to infer whether or not you come from a family with a lot of money, or if you attend a high school full of wealthier or middle-class students — or one with mostly lower income or underrepresented minority students. However, regardless of what they may learn about you from your application, admissions officers at schools practicing need-blind admissions are charged with making their decisions based on many factors, none of which includes your financial need, or, perhaps better phrased, your ability to pay.</p>

<p>Hopefully this is true to all need-blind schools. HOPEFULLY.</p>

<p>but see, what everyone is reiterating is the OFFICIAL, politically correct stance, which may or may not be how things actually work…</p>

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Generally, when they say something it’s true. Unless you have clear and compelling evidence beyond pathetic anecdotal evidence, I’d be very careful about basically calling the most prestigious universities in the country liars. What’s next? The moon landing was fake?</p>

<p>So if all you’re going to use is pathetic cries that “they’re lying” I don’t see any point in giving credence to anything you say.</p>

<p>I agree with Kameronsmith</p>

<p>Put it another way, schools that say that they are need blind are schools that usually have a holistic approach and they look at everything that reflects about you as a potential student, not your ability to pay. Even if they infer that you need aid (based on what they see in your application: for example if you have mentioned something about your need in your essay), that decision on FA is not theirs to make and once they make an admission decision, the FA office takes over. If ability to pay was a prime consideration in those schools, the whole Questbridge program would not exist. So if you are apply to a school that claims that it is need blind, you should have faith that will keep its word.</p>