How smart/hardworking do you have to be?

<p>I know this is a vague question and that there are many other variables involved but can someone who is smart and hardworking enough to get 800s on the Chem/Bio/Physics SATIIs and get 5s on the Chem/Bio/PhysicsB APs get a good score on the MCATs and make it through medical school etc.
I know this question may sound dumb but do those aforementioned scores serve as a gauge? Again, I know that there are other variables involved.</p>

<p>Well first of all, you should know that virtually everyone who gets in to medical school passes. The real question is how smart/hardworking you have to be to GET IN to medical school.</p>

<p>I know that almost everyone who gets into medical school makes it through.
However, I'm wondering about my prospects as a premed.
Can someone who is smart and hardworking enough to get 800s on the Chem/Bio/Physics SATIIs and get 5s on the Chem/Bio/PhysicsB APs get a good score on the MCATs and make it to medical school etc.?
Again, I realize how stupid this may sound but I'm trying to gauge myself against everyone else.</p>

<p>I got 800s on my SATIIs and 5's on my APs but you have to realize college is a very different. Your GPA is just as important as your MCAT.
I thought I was smart until I spent a year in college. I thought I could do the same thing I did in high school and get by but I'm nowhere close to my HS GPA. Don't make the same mistake. Don't let your arrogance get ahead of you.</p>

<p>Also, to quote bluedevilmike, med school admissions tend to reward hardworkers over those who are naturally smart. Your GPA, MCAT, and overall application should reflect this.</p>

<p>Can someone? Absolutely. Can someone who didn't take any AP courses in high school and whose SAT score is beneath the 50th percentile for their university get to medical school and make it though? Absolutely.</p>

<p>I don't know if there's any correlation between high school grades/scores and MCAT scores and acceptance into medical school (although, if nothing else, you're competing against a lot more people who had 5s and 800s than you were for undergraduate admission). But if you go in with the mind set that because you're smarter you don't have to work as hard as the other pre-meds, it'll show. There will be plenty of times when college (specifically pre-med courses) will teach you to be humble no matter how smart you are or how hardworking you are.</p>

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can someone who is smart and hardworking enough to get 800s on the Chem/Bio/Physics SATIIs and get 5s on the Chem/Bio/PhysicsB APs get a good score on the MCATs and make it through medical school etc.

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<p>Nope. I hear you have to score in the 500's and 600's on the SAT's and 3's on the AP tests in order to make it into med school.</p>

<p>Sarcasm aside, it's hard to tell because definitions of "smart" and "hardworking" change once you are in the college/premed world. What's considered smart at your typical public HS would not necessarily be considered smart in college. A 800 on the SAT is certainly a good sign, right? I mean, I haven't seen anyone score 810 on a SAT II. But, that's all it is. A sign.</p>

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<p>Whoa, I'm not saying that I'm going to get by without any work ethic.
I've got a work ethic; I know it takes hard work to get into and through medical school etc. I'm just trying to gauge myself.
Thanks for the link student14x.
As usual, hard work pays off but you do need some basic brains.</p>

<p>The best answer to this ridiculous question is as follows: many of the best college athletes do not end up performing very well in the professional leagues, which is why so many Heisman winners do poorly. Obviously, a Heisman winner is more likely to do well than some other random player about whom you know nothing, but the bottom line is that the difference in skills is so large that you're no longer really talking about the same sport.</p>

<p>if its really what you want to pursue instead of asking a bunch of random people who know nothing about you besides a few numbers that you've shared why not just try it out and see what happens? </p>

<p>nobody here has a crystal ball. relax. you'll be okay.</p>

<p>I think it'll be helpful to have that kind of background, but it's not going to make or break an application, since no one really cares about high school work on a med school application. Realize that you need, what, a 70% to get 5s on the AP tests? <em>IF</em> this directly corresponded to the MCAT, it's in the average range (if I remember correctly), but obviously the MCAT doesn't test on knowledge like the SAT II/AP tests do.</p>

<p>You definitely have to be very, very hardworking. But the biggest regret I have for college (so far) is not building up my people skills and socializing, which is (partly) what college is about, which luckily I'm fixing this semester. I was in your place as well; I had great test scores, but it isn't going to translate into automatic A's in classes. Work hard, but don't fall into the trap of being so concerned about grades that it's all you think about...you'll become so miserable that you'll start to hate college. Take it from someone who's been there.</p>