<p>What are all the components that go to making up a Harvard students? Like how does one go about becoming one in terms of work ethic etc.</p>
<p>i think you have to be like, smart.</p>
<p>I would think it requires a VERY VERY strong work ethic, such that you are willing to go much beyond what an average student would. Maybe being innately smart/gifted would help, too. Fantastic grades, class rank, standardized scores, and EC's are probably musts. Lots of awards, etc. </p>
<p>I'd like to think of a Harvard student as an extremely bright student who is very passionate about a certain subject area, and desires to make a difference in said area?</p>
<p>Man, it's not that hard. Just have your parents donate a couple billion dollars to Harvard. Or cure cancer. Or be the child of a king/president/celebrity. Those are usually good hooks.</p>
<p>idk, one thing i've seen among several harvard bound kids from my school is that they only do things for the sake of getting into harvard, like taking AP art history so that way they will be the kid with the most APs in the class, or once getting excepted ceasing to be a functioning member of society, i.e, all your grades drop a letter, you stop participating in every activity you used to be completely in charge of, because apparently you didnt do anything out of real passion, but simply to get into harvard.</p>
<p>No, i was not rejected by harvard, I didnt even apply, and I am happy at another ivy league institution, I think you can guess which one.</p>
<p>does anyone know how to have a strong harvard work ethic? mine is really crappy</p>
<p>You have to have a better reason for work ethic than getting into Harvard, or you're a) not going to acquire or b) not going to stick with it.</p>
<p>well i want to go to harvard and then go to harvard medical school and become a doctor.. so i'm really going to have to get my work ethic down and after much failed effort I dont think ive been able to do so</p>
<p>-thanks</p>
<p>how to be a harvard student: Study all day and go to club meetings along with lunch/dinner breaks. only 4 hours of sleep</p>
<p>how to be a harvard law/medical student: welcome to your new home, the library.</p>
<p>well i duno, I am guessing thats it.</p>
<p>ok then thats what im going to have to do. if im not in class in college ill be in the library. and then ill be a harvard ed student?</p>
<p>"if im not in class in college ill be in the library. and then ill be a harvard ed student?"</p>
<p>Nope. Harvard students tend to have lots of energy, need little sleep, and genuinely enjoy doing ECs probably even more than their great enjoyment of academics. They are students who because of their interests start community projects and do more research than what teachers require. They do things like this out of genuine interest, not to try to amass a resume to impress Harvard.</p>
<p>When they go to Harvard, they continue to do the same kind of things -- because that's the kind of life that they enjoy living. </p>
<p>Most do not spend all day at the library. Sure, they study, but they also spend time -- a lot of time -- with ECs. For instance, the editors at the school paper probably spend 30 hours a week there -- without getting paid. Most do this as a hobby. Most aren't trying to get experience so that they can enter the journalism field after graduation. They plan to do things like go to law school or go into business. Some even work on the paper despite being premed.</p>
<p>so what abotu a person who enjoys partying and going out to night clubs as an extra curricular? are we just screwed? i really have no idea what extra curricular i would love so much as to spend 30 hours a week on it! i mean im trying, but i dont know if i can do something out of shear love for ti</p>
<p>i think mainly harvard kids are smart, cough<em>sheer</em>cough</p>
<p>but like, im def into the whole partying thing and im pretty confident of getting into harvard... i just happen to do other stuff when most of my friends are tooling around their house...</p>
<p>Just wondering, spydertennis why are you so confident of getting into harvard? Like what things have you done that you think will get you into Harvard (RSI?)?</p>
<p>really? so thats your secret? not "tooling" around the house? what exactly does that mean?</p>
<p>harvard students are not smart. their just extremely hard working or a combination of the two. there tons of smart people that just smoke pot all day long, this is evident if you take a trip to the "wall" at stuyvesant. these are people with nearly perfect sat scores who have never picked up a book on the subject. but the schools their going to are most definitely not harvard.</p>
<p>"so what abotu a person who enjoys partying and going out to night clubs as an extra curricular? are we just screwed? i"</p>
<p>Try colleges on the order of Big 10 universities, where you could find plenty of peers with your hobbies. </p>
<p>I honestly can't think of anyone whom I went to Harvard with who wanted to party 30 hours a week. Sure, people partied, but their idea of fun was not your idea of fun.</p>
<p>Just because a person is very intelligent doesn't mean that they'd be happy at a place like Harvard. Look for a college where the students' personalities match yours. I am fairly sure that you'd find Harvard folks to be too intense and too interested in academics and nonpartying ECs to be of interest to you.</p>
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harvard students are not smart. their just extremely hard working or a combination of the two. there tons of smart people that just smoke pot all day long, this is evident if you take a trip to the "wall" at stuyvesant. these are people with nearly perfect sat scores who have never picked up a book on the subject. but the schools their going to are most definitely not harvard.
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I beg to differ. Harvard students are most definitely smart. It takes a combination of intelligence and hard work to get in. Now a days, hard work alone will not get you into Harvard. A certain degree of intelligence is certainly required.</p>
<p>That said, I don't think there is one single formula for an ideal Harvard student. It boils down to standing out from the rest of the pack; being unique. That in itself is something that eludes definition, so an attempt to categorize it, is futile in my opinion. </p>
<p>It seems that your ideas are too utopian and idealistic. To be blunt, there are lazy people that get into Harvard, and there are MANY hard working people that get rejected. That's not to say it's right, but life isn't fair. Its all about the results. If you can party every weekend and still get a 2400/make it to RSI, props to you.</p>
<p>According to Machiavelli, the ends justify the means. This is most certainly true in this case, if your technique yields good results and is legal (meaning no cheating, etc.), then it doesn't really matter if you party everyday or if the library is your second home. Frankly, in the end, it comes down to whether or not you deliver, not how hard you try.</p>
<p>I just want to make clear that I'm not insulting colleges like Big 10 universities by suggesting that such a place might be good for the OP.</p>
<p>My point is that he sounds like a person who'd be happy at place where tailgate parties, football, painting yourself in the school colors, partying are considered an important part of the college experience. That's not the case at Harvard, where students tend to look down their noses at some of the rah rah activities that are done on other types of campuses.</p>
<p>If the OP wants to party a lot and be around lots of smart people, he might want to check out the honors programs at some of the sports-centered state universities. I think he'd be bored and miserable at Harvard.</p>
<p>Northstar, I have a lot of respect for you but i think youre wayyy off base here</p>
<p>just because someone likes to have a good time doesnt mean theyre all about - "tailgate parties, football, painting yourself in the school colors" i think it means just that, they think harvard is all about working all the time and not having fun
thats just blatantly not true, i know a bunch of kids currently at harvard and most of them are quite the opposite of this statement -
"I honestly can't think of anyone whom I went to Harvard with who wanted to party 30 hours a week. Sure, people partied, but their idea of fun was not your idea of fun.:"
No offense meant here, but maybe the type of people who attend harvard in more recent years are more in tune with having a good time in the traditional sense</p>
<p>i seriously doubt that the majority of harvard people are -
"too intense and too interested in academics and nonpartying ECs to be of interest to you."
as i said, i know a bunch who enjoy partying and going to nightclubs</p>