<p>Well, they certainly have different attitudes about making money after college. Wes IS probably closer in mentality to Oberlin than to Harvard.</p>
<p>Did you not see "Harold and Kumar go to White Castle"?? Great pimp on Asian Ivy kids longing to get into I banking.</p>
<p>(Jeans feel like cement tubes on my legs.)
convincing analysis, Marite.</p>
<p>Driver, it wasn't the town that charmed me but the winding roads and rolling hills and wondrous houses set back from reality.</p>
<p>"The old money titled folks wore clothes that looked as old as their titles."</p>
<p>As my mother used to say: "that's how the rich stay rich" --by which she meant they don't waste money on new clothes.</p>
<p>Having visited some of those old money tailors with my old-money cousins (since my grandparents were both disinherited by their old-money families, I have lots of old-money cousins and no old money), I will comment that those tailors made beautiful clothing from wonderful fabrics that last forever. Ditto the shoes. If it costs ten times as much to begin with, but lasts twenty times as long.... it's actually cheaper.</p>
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<blockquote> <p>Ah yes, Daniel Golden. Does everyone remember the case of Henry Park of the Groton School? <<</p> </blockquote>
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<p>I thought I had heard of Daniel Golden, but couldn't place him. I wonder how Henry Park ended up--I'm guessing he's either in med school or is a doctor by now.</p>
<p>I know Wes is closer to Oberlin than to Harvard. And I have kids who went to both; same family income and same attitude to spending: as little as possible.</p>
<p>derived from a philosophy of inconspicuous non-consumption</p>
<p>Rorosem:</p>
<p>Or could it be conspicuous non-consumption? (All these prominently displayed eco-friendly labels) Or inconspicuous consumption (as when they raid the fridge out of parental sight}?</p>
<p>roshke .... Chances are that the
red convertible and the Hummer
are not on campus @ this time
of the year.</p>
<p>I'm amused at the detective work needed to ascertain the affluence of the BMC student body. ONE Hummer and ONE red convertible. How many students are there at BMC? Do we even know whether the vehicles belong to any of them or to members of the staff or faculty?</p>
<p>marite...
1799 UG & grad.<br>
No we don't know that.
Clue.... vehicles are parked across
from a dorm 24/7. Parking spaces
are hard to find, therefore the
students don't move their cars</p>
<p>I think your fine detective work about two paticular vehicles makes a slam dunk argument about the type of students who go to BMC.</p>
<p>No need to hear anything else from people who, you know, actually have experience with the school.</p>
<p>garland.... No, no, no.
Two vehicles do not
make a slam dunk argument.
And.... Yes, it adds creditibility
when we hear from people
that are actually students
attending Bryn Mawr for the
past 3 years. Like my two nieces
my daughter, & 7 other women
from the surrounding area.</p>
<p>Ok, with 11 of you involved, I now understand how you could have possibly had the two vehicles under surveillance 24/7. Do you wear disguises?</p>
<p>"And anyway, is income by itself a gauge of middle class attitudes? And what might these be anyway? One CC poster mentioned that her spouse is a sanitation worker in NYC, making up to $200k. Is he then the parent of an affluent, preppy, rich white kid?"</p>
<p>That was me! He doesn't make $200k, he makes $100k by himself and then I make the rest (I'm a lowly administrator at a law firm). My husband, as some of you may recall, is the athlete who graduated from high school and entered college as a functional illiterate. His mother was, literally, off the boat from Italy with a fourth grade education. So money is not an indicator, particularly in NYC.</p>
<p>"The next time you visit a prestige
college campus while school is in
session, take note of the vehicles
the students are driving. Hummers,
BMWs or the Mercedes Sportster
Convertible are a common site"</p>
<p>My daughter attends a private high school here in one of the boroughs. Those types of cars are common in the parking lots in this particular school However, probably 80% or more of their owners attend the local CC or a couple of local colleges that aren't particularly prestigious (Wagner, St. John's). It's almost unheard of for graduates of that school to even go away for college, never mind the top ones.</p>
<p>zoosermom brings up a good point: $160K is less "rich" in NYC, Boston, or LA than it is in a rural community where cost of living is much lower.</p>
<p>There are many people in my community who bought tiny tract houses before the big RE boom of the last 10 years; now they have lots of home equity (even if they can't afford to sell or take out home equity loans)-- so, despite fairly low incomes and modest lifestyles, these folks are "rich white elite" on paper...</p>
<p>Not arguing that someone sitting on massive home equity is needy, just that these kids are not classic "rich kids."</p>
<p>driver asked: Do you wear disguises?
Well..... yes. My doctor calls it
Botox. Other people call it facial
cosmectic therapy.</p>
<p>Proud to be--I'm sincerely curious--why didn't you speak from that platform before, rather than automotive guess work? </p>
<p>Are your family members the only ones not showing up in limos and Hummers?</p>
<p>YOu obviously know more about BMC than I do, but you based your posts on outsider observation. </p>
<p>'Course, I can't afford botox, either :)</p>
<p>driver, I appreciate your posts in this thread, especially #18. I often see such obvious bigotry here on CC against anyone who happens to be "rich", and few ever object to it. The negative connotations expressed about "rich kids" and how they are something which should be avoided sicken, and anger, me. My kids are "rich kids". I can't think of one reason why anyone would want their kids to avoid mine, at college or elsewhere. If similar comments were addressed, as you pointed out in post #18, to "poor kids" or "black kids" or "Jewish kids" or "international kids", people would be huffing and puffing with indignity. Some of you really need to examine the reasons for your disdain of entire groups of people. It truly is unseemly.</p>
<p>Alwaysamom--bigotry against the rich? Really? I haven't noticed that. I think the concern is more that kids who can't afford things at the median for that campus--and the median does vary--will feel out of place. My kids certainly meet my definition of rich--they will graduate with no loans--and I've been on CC for multiple years without noticing an anti-rich prejudice. Anti-snob, yes.</p>
<p>There are college campuses with a monied culture (Princeton springs to mind, although I admit to limited knowledge of present-day Princeton) and campuses where doing what everyone else is doing does not require money (MIT would be one example). If your child is going to have to scrape for every cent (much less every dollar), you might legitimately want to avoid the richer campuses.</p>