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"Columbia -General Studies can not be compared in this discussion to Cornell's schools"</p>
<p>is on the one hand literally true- because Columbia purposefully does not disseminate data that would form a basis for comparing.</p>
<p>On the other hand, what you mean is that the school should not be compared, because it has a specialized mission that Cornell's colleges don't have.</p>
<p>By this very same reasoning, Cornell's specialized colleges should not be compared to Columbia's colleges, which are different. Only schools of substantially similar types should be directly compared. College by college, not some pointless aggregate.</p>
<p>But if you insist on aggregating, recognize that all the relevant data isn't being made available to you.</p>
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I think that we all understand that, but it is still ridiculous to compare SAT scores for Cornell's engineering students to non-engineering students at other schools. Plus the figures were neither accurate nor of the same year when comparing different universities.
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<p>I got the impression he included just Cornell Engineering to see how it compared to MIT, CalTech, Harvey Mudd, schools that are predominantly engineering.</p>
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Dartmouth is clearly the worst Ivy.
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<p>That's why it has the fourth highest median SAT of the eight schools and the highest mid-career salary of any school in the country.</p>
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Especially for architecture, engineering, creative writing, and animal husbandry... I understand its offerings are just atrocious.
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<p>I forgot how popular animal husbandry was! WOW. I forgot that the agricultural and ecology school are the biggest jokes into the school and back doors into the ivy league. Maybe thats why a dumb girl in my school, middle of the class at best, with poor SAT scores is going there next year? Cornell egineering is the one positive thing it has over some other ivies, but the rest just doesn't stack up.</p>
<p>The rest doesn't stack up? Give me a break. The NRC rankings (ranking 41 major fields) ranked Cornell 4th for academic breadth and quality, above all other Ivies. For academic quality Cornell placed 9th, trouncing all Ivies except HYP.</p>
<p>Selectivity is not a trustworthy indicator of academic quality. :rolleyes:</p>
Since most people eat meat and use animal products, I'd say it's quite popular. The world would do very nicely without ibanking. How well would the world do without farmers? :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Brown and Dartmouth, to be honest, are not known for much. They may be known to employers and whatnot, but they have none of that prestige or name recognition enjoyed by HYP Columbia, Penn, or Cornell.</p>
<p>It's sad, but it just goes to prove that ivy doesn't mean everything if you go to either B or D</p>
<p>and haha, i also know an idiot in my class whose going to UPenn next year lol. His SAT is sub 2000 and his gpa is around a 3.45-ish with about 3 honors/AP classes per year, which is not very rigorous at my school. The point of this is to say that just because these great schools seem to admit not so great candidates, doesn't mean they didn't get in from some hook or another. There's always unintelligent people at any school. Even harvard.</p>
<p>Hope2getrice, are you suggesting that anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything? But I know a sub-par kid that goes to Columbia - surely that must mean it's not a good school, right? And it's just absurd to say that acceptance rate doesn't directly correlate to quality of the school - obviously Cornell is the worst Ivy (21% acceptance rate), just as UChicago is a very bad school with ridiculously easy admissions standards.</p>
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Dartmouth's academics are on par with community colleges and the only thing you will learn there is how to drink 10 shots of beer in under 5 seconds.
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^My Alcoholism 001 class at least taught ME that beer is measured in 12 oz bottles, NOT shots!</p>
<p>Sounds like someone wishes their father was at Yale...</p>