<p>This is true. Without Jesus, gay people will go to hell. So will straight people and asexual people. This has nothing to do with sexual orientation, but everything to do with their own choices.</p>
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<p>The problem is that we’re working with different definitions of homosexual. Homosexuality as an innate condition which causes a person to be attracted to their own sex has nothing to do with right or wrong (unless you believe it is the result of someone else’s wrongdoing which has harmed their children). Homosexuality as a lifestyle people choose to live is wrong, and just like any other wrong act will condemn a person to hell unless repented of and forgiven.</p>
<p>There’s nothing wrong with feelings. The wrong or right is in what you choose to do.</p>
<p>Or at least that’s my understanding of the truth. The Westboros might think different, but I see nothing in their actions which resembles Christianity.</p>
<p>Back to abortion: that is entirely different. Given the premise that an unborn baby is just as human as a born one, it is entirely justifiable to make extreme efforts to convince people to spare that baby’s life. The argument “some people don’t think those are people so it’s all subjective” carries no weight whatsoever. If about half of people didn’t think the Australian Aborigines were human, would that mean it was wrong to speak out against their being killed?</p>
<p>More relevantly, there are a lot of people who fight for animal rights and try to shame people into not doing various things to animals. Do you consider them with the same expletives you consider pro-lifers?</p>
<p>This might surprise you, but some of us who happen to be gay can consider ourselves to be Christian as well. Also, some of us don’t believe that only Christians can get into heaven and find that idea wildly offensive, even those of us who happen to be Christians. </p>
<p>But getting back to what you’re saying… you’re saying basically, even if it’s something innate, then our only option is to be abstinant? That’s what you’re saying right?</p>
<p>So if you say that it’s innate, then God made them that way. So then they must make the choice to deny how God made them. God has therefore damned them not to have a family, not to make love, not to love people that they are attracted to, etc simply because he made them different. </p>
<p>That makes no sense. </p>
<p>I’m not getting into this debate, but I had to throw that out there.</p>
<p>Okay, I’m an atheist with many gay friends, but saying that God made homosexuals gay, so it must be okay is nonsense. If God exists, he also made us want to sin, but that doesn’t make sinning okay. He made pedophiles, but that doesn’t mean it’s okay for them to abuse children.</p>
<p>So if you are a Christian and believe it’s a sin, there is nothing wrong with that argument. Except the fact that homosexuality is not wrong, obviously, but there’s no empirical proof on either side.</p>
<p>ETA: To expound on the innateness argument. I believe people who think it’s innate AND wrong view it the same as sinning. We are all naturally inclined to sin, but we are supposed to try and stop ourselves, to ask forgiveness when we do lapse. In their view, homosexuality is just another sin we must stop ourselves from.</p>
<p>@Mosby (sorry I’m a few pages late)
Yeah, the people who said I wasn’t kidding were right. Kenzie summed it up well as “Yay I have awesome pro-choice parents who would support my decision.” I’m sorry if you were offended by it, but I’m truly just very happy that my parents are as chill as I am about this.</p>
<p>I suppose I’ll answer the original question. My dad would be very disappointed me, and I doubt my mom would even believe me. I’m definitely not the kind of person who would do something like that. But they’d both be supportive of my decision to have an abortion.</p>
<p>Wrong. If you’re a Christian (or any Judeo-Christian religion IIRC) then you believe God gave us free will and it is the Devil or other negative forces that make us “want” to sin. God is supposed to make us want to turn away from sin, not towards it.</p>
<p>Fwiw- I am no longer a Christian and have not been one for nearly a decade.</p>
<p>To the original question: My mom would probably cry because she’s overly emotional. And my father would be gravely disappointed, but he’d still love me just because I’m his daughter.</p>
<p>I know the most immoral story. There was a girl who attended a Catholic church and from church met a boy who she slept with. She got knocked up and people from her Catholic church pretty much pressured her to get an abortion since it was all such a disgrace. Anyway, I was pretty surprised seeing as I thought abortions were not acceptable to Catholics nevertheless encouraged.</p>