Hello! I have a D21 in state that’s interested in Kelley, specifically Accounting. Just wondering what classes you or your child took in HS that transferred for credit (especially for gen eds) and/or helped to gain a preliminary understanding of certain courses? Maybe @iubaccounting could share some info as well.
Since D’s school offers a variety of AP and ACP IU Duel Credit classes it would be nice for her to fulfill her HS graduation reqs and knock out some gen eds in the process. Right now she’s taking ACP Calc I which is the equivalent of IU MATH M215 and next year she’ll have M216. They also have the equivalent of IU ENG W131 and ENG L202 which she could take Sr year and IU BUS- B190 Principles of Business Management. Also, would AP Stats, AP Econ, AP Bio or AP Psych fulfill some gen reqs as well?
Taking accounting in high school will help with accounting at IU, but won’t transfer any credits. For accounting, you need 150 credit hours to sit for the CPA exam, which is basically a requirement to be hired at an accounting firm. That means you either need to bring in roughly 30 credits from high school to do it in 4 years. Kelley also has programs that offer an extra year and a graduate degree.
This 150 credit requirement basically means that any AP credits are very helpful, even if they don’t satisfy requirements. See the google doc below. Starting on page 3, I talk about class requirements. I think this will be helpful, but let me know if you have any other questions. Just delete the space in the “google” part of the URL and copy and paste into your browser.
@iubaccounting, thank you for the info! Yes, D is taking Intro to Accounting now and is enjoying the class and her teacher. She will take Advanced Accounting Jr. year.
Just curious, were you in state or OOS? If in state, did your school offer the IU Dual Credit ACP courses? Senior year she will take the equivalent of IU’s Eng - W131 to get that out of the way. However, I’m not seeing her IU M215/216 Math classes (Calc I and II) listed on the Kelley reqs.
I was trying to look through some of the gen ed requirements and was wondering what AP classes you would recommend, or that you took in high school, that qualified for some of those reqs? For example, would AP Bio or AP Psych fulfill some of those gen eds? Thank you for sharing that doc and any other info.
I was in-state and I took ACP calculus. I’ve never heard of MATH-M 215 or 216 and I can’t find any classes with those numbers. Are you sure that’s right? I took M119 in high school, which is the highest calculus required for Kelley. Calc 1 and 2 are M211 and M212 at IU. M211 would satisfy the calc requirement.
I took Human Geo, Macro, Micro, APLAC, Lit, Physics 1, APES, Psych, Gov, and Stats in high school. I was able to get credit for all of them except stats. (Kelley for some reason won’t accept AP credit for stats even though I learned way more in AP stats than Kelley stats). Not all of it was directly applicable to my degree, but I am literally about to graduate with exactly 150 credits, so they all mattered for me.
The M211/M212 are each 4 cr classes and the M215/M216 are each 5 cr classes.
Thank you so much for sharing the AP’s you took. So helpful! Nice to know that you don’t have to go that extra year in order to fulfill those last 30 reqs. What a money saver for you and your parents! I think D will be able to plan the rest of her HS schedule so that she can do what you did with a combo of AP and Dual Credit/ACP classes.
Did any of those AP classes or exams give you a hard time? I’ve heard APLAC, LIt, Physics and Micro can be tough. Also, were you able to do study abroad or were you more focused on doing internships?
That makes sense. Those calc classes should count for the math gen ed requirement based on that website.
I got a 3 on Lit (which was all I needed) and a 4 or 5 on all the other ones. I think I generally took AP’s on the easier side (no Physics C, Bio, Chem, World/US History, etc), but it just kind of worked out that I was more interested in the easier ones. It also completely depends on the teacher. Stats was the easiest AP exam I took, but that was almost entirely because my teacher was incredible. I think Psych is probably easier than Stats in general, but Psych was the only AP exam I had to actively study for because our teacher didn’t teach us some of the required material. My school was also strong and committed to students doing well in APs, so that definitely helped.
I did two internships with DFAS, which is where I will be starting full-time. I could’ve done a semester abroad, but I didn’t really pursue it because I wasn’t really interested in doing it.
@iubaccounting, congratulations on your job with DFAS for when you graduate!
The D of one of my friends graduated about 4 or 5 years ago from Kelley and she had several great job offers to choose from her Senior year. Her internship opportunities helped her get that all-important first job out of school as well. I’m sure that’s a big relief and now you can just focus on wrapping up your studies and enjoying the rest of your Senior year.
As far as AP classes go, I agree, a lot depends on the teacher and the reputation of a class at each school. For example, right now there is a lot of upheaval in APES bc a teacher is on leave and the one who is teaching the class now is not as familiar with it, so lots of complaints from the kids taking that class. So not all “easy” APs are easy if the teacher isn’t strong.
Do you mind sharing how many and which schools you applied to in HS? I want D to apply to more than our two state flagships and was trying to get a few other options for her to look into OOS. She’s interested in a bigger school with a good Business reputation that offers some decent merit for OOS and the Direct Admit feature is certainly attractive. I’m thinking maybe 6 schools total would be a good number (mostly safeties/matches and one semi reach).
Thanks again for responding to my questions! Maybe others (students/parents) can share their input as well.
First, you don’t have two instate “flagships.” There is only one that matters.
(Ok we suggested the kid apply to Purdon’t as well. He didn’t want to thank god.)
Kid applied to Miami OH, which gave him a lot of money – I would recommend if your kid would consider a “smaller” (15,000 students) school. I think Iowa is getting aggressive with out of state students – a couple of kid’s friends got good money from them but didn’t go. These days, with the common app, applying is easy so she may as well send in the app. My kid did ISU (IL state), Tampa and got good money as well.
