<p>so I am currently studyin at community college in WA. First year.
GPA 4.0 so far. Im international student from Asia.</p>
<p>I really want to know how to transfer in fall or spring to any better college or university that offer good finance or scholarships. i know Amherst and some ivy leagues does and i will try but i know its freaking hard for international student! :((</p>
<p>What time is best to make decision even if its early decision because transfer degree (AA degree) is just a waste of time.</p>
<p>You need to make an appointment with the Transfer Counselor at your CC. That person can tell you which colleges and universities have accepted transfers from your CC in recent years, and whether or not students received the kind of financial aid they needed. Here is a link to the Transfer information at our local CC: [Counseling</a> & Advising | Transferring](<a href=“http://cms.montgomerycollege.edu/edu/tertiary1.aspx?urlid=67]Counseling”>http://cms.montgomerycollege.edu/edu/tertiary1.aspx?urlid=67)
Some of this information is specific for students at MC, but a lot would apply to you as well.</p>
<p>You also should take a look at the thread titled “Transfer Admissions 101” that is at the top of the Transfer Students Forum. Click on “Discussion Home” in the upper-left of this screen, and scroll down to find that forum.</p>
<p>i was studying 2 years in my country. they have grade scale 10 so
ninth grade i was around 8.7 which is an A around 3.8 or 3.9
tenth grade is 7.3 B- around 3.3 or 3.5
11 and 12 was both 4.0</p>
<p>University of Washington, Seattle University, Gonzaga University, University of Puget Sound, Pacific Lutheran University, or Western Washington University. All wonderful Washington State colleges who will accept your CC credits, and might give you some aid. Ask them.</p>
<p>Get over that Asian prestige hound thingie. You can obtain a WONDERFUL education at the schools I mentioned.</p>
<p>Some Washington state four-year colleges guarantee transfer to community college students who have followed a specific program. Please follow happymom’s advice and meet with your college’s advising office. They can help you make sure that you are taking the steps you need to ensure your transfer. University of Washington is an excellent, nationally renowned university and less expensive than many other schools, if you are a state resident.</p>
<p>@ghost buster: haha you are so right. Im pretty white inside actually. If my family dont force me i think im gonna do lots of crazy stuffs.</p>
<p>@geekmom: <em>hugsback</em> thanks</p>
<p>@seattle_mom: UW is good but its way too expensive for international students. i dont know if i could afford that.</p>
<p>Here is my problems lol:
I can’t do much activities. back in vietnam i was partyin and kids there studied like there is no life and im really not one of them :D. I just dont enjoy puttin a “good record” doin whole bunch of crap and be a leader to look good and get into top school!!!</p>
<p>I really need good financial aid for international students even if that mean i had to work my little butt of to get in i dont care how much SAT and TOEFL that school requires and how competitive that school is… (wow i sounds so asian) lol</p>
<p>but seriously i cant afford more than 12grand a quarter. :(((
thanks guys for helping</p>
<p>I dont know all the rules about federal financial aid, but there are different kinds of ‘international students’. If you are a green card resident of the United States, legal and vouched, then you may well qualify for federal student loans and even some school grants. File the FAFSA immediately. You can do it online with your family. </p>
<p>Other foreign nationals, who are not residents of the United States and are coming to school here from overseas, I dont think qualify for federal aid, but they may have some programs at the schools to assist them, I don’t know. If you don’t ask the schools, you won’t know.</p>
<p>Finally, I wasnt trying to make a racial remark per se, I was remarking based on my observations (and my kids all know a LOT of asians, mostly chinese), that Asians are often obsessed with college rankings and “prestige” and make decisions about schools almost exclusively on that basis. Of course there are plenty of exceptions. I didnt mean to offend you or anyone. My kids know chinese americans who have been berated to the point of abuse by their parents for not getting into an Ivy School and having to settle for Duke and UVa. Its sad actually.</p>
<p>If you’re not put off by rural locations, you may want to consider calling the Oberlin College admissions/financial aid office to ask about financial aid for international students. </p>
<p>I do know they give generous aid to transfer students…but those classmates were all US applicants. </p>
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<p>The reasons for this, especially among recent Asian immigrants is that back in their home countries, not getting into the most highly ranked colleges does mean one’s future career options are permanently closed off. </p>
<p>In Japan, it used to be that if you failed to gain admission not only to the #1 university in the country(UTokyo), but also its most prestigious department(Law), you can forget about attaining any positions in the most prestigious Japanese government ministries or the top positions in the Japanese private sector. In the last few years, this has loosened slightly…so they will now accept graduates from the top 5-6(Tokyo, Kyoto, Waseda, Keio, etc) universities. </p>
<p>Even so, failing to gain admission to any of those targeted schools means those career options/paths are permanently shut with the consequent reduction in future job/career options. And after 1989 when the Economic Bubble burst…not getting into a top university may not only mean being shut out of the most prestigious jobs/careers in government/private sector…but sometimes even getting a decently paid job in some industries because the competition for jobs has gotten quite stiff. </p>
<p>Moreover, there is a strong disdain in Japan towards those who go abroad for their undergrad degrees as the preferred path is topflight Japanese undergrad degree, then topflight US/European graduate degree. Remembered reading in a Japanese newspaper about one guy who failed to land a job in a topflight Japanese corporation because he did his undergrad at Bucknell University. Even taking a Masters from Waseda(#3/4 Japanese university) wasn’t enough. It was only after he entered University of Tokyo as an advanced undergrad student at one prospective employer’s suggestion and he got his Tokyo BA that the same companies suddenly decided to show any interest by extending enticing job offers to him. In short, he went from being a non-entity to being a popular candidate companies were clamoring to hire because of that topflight Japanese undergrad degree. </p>
<p>In China/Taiwan, graduating from schools other than the top (i.e. Tsinghua, etc/Taiwan National University, etc) effectively shuts off options for topflight government/private sector careers for the most part unless one does not only work above-and-beyond extremely hard, but is also quite lucky(i.e. Has powerful friends in extremely high places). </p>
<p>Not only that, but even elected politicians in Taiwan are scrutinized quite harshly about their educational backgrounds (i.e. Most top politicians in Taiwan including the last 3 Presidents have their college degrees from National Taiwan University and…in some cases…graduate degrees from top US universities like Cornell, Berkeley, NYU-Law, and Harvard-Law). </p>
<p>And being a politician in Taiwan is much less exacting than trying to gain a job in the most prestigious government ministries or topflight jobs in topflight corporations. Only exceptions to this rule I know of are those who got their positions through political patronage/nepotism as there is a strong common perception that if one is not a graduate of a top university in Taiwan/US…one is not the most qualified and someone who “doesn’t cut the mustard” intellectually. </p>
<p>Only bright spot in China/Taiwan is that undergrad degree holders from what is perceived as topflight US universities are given the same/similar favorable treatment as those who graduated from topflight domestic universities in terms of hiring and social perceptions. </p>
<p>IME, most Americans who have had little/no exposure to the Asian education systems or the history behind them have no idea just how competitive and how “high-stakes” university admissions in those countries are and more importantly, how the prestige/rank of one’s college/grad degrees not only determines employment options…but also how well/poorly one is treated by society…especially its elites. </p>
<p>While that certainly does not justify the browbeating and more importantly, abusive treatment of children who failed to fulfill their parents’ expectations, I hope the above will provide a glimpse into their thought/reasoning processes based on experiences back in their country of origin.</p>
<p>@seattlemom: i dont know. i dont think so since im kinda considering as out of state student + the expense it would be above 24000. i have couple of friends go there. </p>
<p>@ghostbuster: im a total alien which means i dont have a greencard or anything. so FAFSA wont work. St like NAFSA would. but there is like 600000 others international folks too. lol it is intense. and wow its like parents beat u up cuz they born u this way haha thanks man</p>
<p>@cobrat: wow lol you know more about Asian countries than i do. but not necessary for goverment job positions. Japan in particular is very prideful so they are producing a lot of students with their samurai attitude. But most Japanese dont go to other country to study, i think all of them thinks Japan have the best college/unis there so…the competition is intense.( heard they have to study from 5am to 11pm) its like if u failed at school, u failed life. in other country in asia, if you’re not schooling, you cant even get a job. i just make a guess but since the generation from 60s to 80s are mostly not educated in college, they want their kids to have the best (the will to succeed) and that’s why harvard and ivies or top schools are everything to them. To make the family look good, also to show off it’s heck lots of fun to show off to ppl if u’r in top school </p>
<p>i just wanna make sure. i read some of the articles here. but dont have full understanding of some stuffs.</p>
<p>so is early decision or early action works for transfer? so far i dont think so.
what are high-reach, reach, match? is it like top school, school u might get in, and school u 100% sure to get in?</p>
<p>Reach, match and safety are rough estimated chances of admission, with no specific values, but you can think of them as, e.g., 5% chance of admission (or less), 50% chance, 95% chance (or more), respectively. They’re mostly ideas.</p>
<p>To give it a slight bit of practical value, if there were a way to know the schools where you have a 50% chance of admission, if you applied to 10 of them, you’d have a 0.1% chance of being rejected by all of them ( 1 / (2**10) ).</p>
<p>I’m not sure how it works, but after two years at a community college here for your Associate’s Degree, might you be able to pay in-state tuition? Again, check with your guidance office.</p>
i dont care how much SAT and TOEFL that school requires and how competitive that school is… (wow i sounds so asian) lol</p>
which means i dont have a greencard or anything. so FAFSA wont work. St like NAFSA would. but there is like 600000 others international folks too. lol it is intense. and wow its like parents beat u up cuz they born u this way haha thanks man</p>
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