I didn't submit all of my transcripts to CCNY

Transfer Students
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I graduated from my community college with a 3.8 GPA. I then transferred to a very expensive university in Boston that I didn’t fit into for many reasons. Failed the first semstered and left. I then went to a public school out on Long Island and did better there but still not well. At both of these places my problem wasn’t the academics as much as it was my lack of life experience.

I am now enrolled in CCNY for my first semester. I didn’t bother sending all my transcripts and only sent the one I felt was important: my transcript from the community college I graduated from.

At orientation, they discussed that CUNY schools will suspend you for 5 years if they discovered you “lied” to get into the school. After hearing that I checked the bulletin which is the legal authority for CCNY and it claims they do hold the right to suspend a student on the grounds of omitting transcripts.

My question is, do you think it’s wiser to submit my transcripts or just leave it alone unless they ask?

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The [CCNY website](https://www.ccny.cuny.edu/admissions/transfer-students) is pretty clear. You were supposed to submit the transcripts from all the colleges you attended. There’s a National Clearing House that lists all the schools students attended and colleges have access to it, so not reporting them is a problem. If it’s not discovered until after you graduate, they can rescind your diploma and make you pay back any aid you received.

Telling them you only attended one college when you really attended 3 isn’t “lying,” it’s lying. They take it pretty seriously. You need to take steps to clear it up before they find out. You might want to ask @Sybbie719 how to go about correcting it. She knows a lot about NY colleges. You may have to withdraw and apply honestly to another CUNY.

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You are simply waiting for someone to justify you doing the wrong thing.

The problem with your shutting your eyes, and sticking your fingers in your ears with the hope that no one finds out is that it is very simple to find out and CUNY will find out.

CUNY is pretty straight forward with what they need from you as a transfer student. IF you have filed a FAFSA or received any kind of TAP, you are just a departmental self audit away from them finding out.

CUNY will not contact you to ask to to submit the information; they are just going to take action. You willfully misrepresented your credentials when applying.

This means dismissing you from the college or retroactively rescinding your degree leaving you with a worthless piece of paper. If you wait for them, you are not going to be given the opportunity to appeal or to make this right.

they will place a notation that you were dismissed from CUNY. IF you do anything that you need to be background checked on (law school, med school) or apply to grad school, it will all come out.

Go to the admissions office, see an admissions counselor, admit your mistake and see how you can rectify the situation. The funny part is that you did all of this for nothing. If you would have been admitted into a 4 year school if you have submitted all of your paperwork (you have an associates; someone would have admitted you and once you proved yourself, you could have still transferred to CUNY if you did not get in the first time).

Don’t live your life waiting for the other shoe to drop. get in front of this before you have no recourse.

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There was a practical reason I couldn’t send the transcript for the third school immediately. I owe them money I couldn’t afford at the time I was applying to CCNY.

I honestly didn’t realize CUNY considers this a serious act of dishonesty until orientation. My third school which was from SUNY didn’t care that I didn’t submit the transcript of the second school; I had to only write them a letter and send the transcript when they asked.

My family background is working class. They’re uneducated. Since I was 16 I’ve wanted to be a physicist and/or mathematician. And I’m the first person in my family to attempt pursuing college. I desperately do not want to be forced out of school. I’m not telling you this to justify my actions. It’s sometimes difficult to determine what pieces of information critically apply to me. I’ve been so persistent with pursuing my academic and career goals. The last thing I want is to be kicked out of CUNY for something trivial like this.

Tomorrow I’ll be on the campus and I’ll look into correcting it.

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This just means that you knew that you were not doing the right thing when you did it.
You are also trying to skip out on your debt to SUNY; them holding your transcript is the only recourse that they have to get their money and you made a conscious decision to try to circumvent them.

You are picking up some really bad habits as this demonstrates that it is not the first time that you did not do the right thing. In your application to SUNY you willingly misrepresented yourself by not submitting your transcripts from the school you attended in Boston. The issue here is that you left before it all caught up with you. However, once again if you applied for TAP or filed a FAFSA it is all there.

This is not a function of being from a working class background or having parents who did not attend college, because there are plenty of people from working class backgrounds and are first gens that are ethical, do the right thing and do not misrepresent themselves in the college admissions process.

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Since when don’t SUNYs care about transcripts? I just applied to take some classes ar our local SUNY cc and had to send them all 4 of my college transcripts from previous schools AND my high school transcript.

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…I just want my relationship with CUNY and CCNY to be healthy. Therefore, I want to address any potential problems. The debt owed to my SUNY school wasn’t my highest priority debt at the time. Because my high priority debt has (almost all) been paid, my SUNY debt has moved up to highest priority.

I’m not looking to enter a verbal battle of “You were supposed to know this and you were supposed do this”. If you want to listen and need more information to help provide a solution to my problematic situation, I’m willing to provide it. However, I’m not interested in a pointless blame battle based on assumptions without any evidence behind them.

Your tone reminds me of the mentality that views students as the enemy, which can sometimes be seen in administrative offices.

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@sybbie719

I know it’s there when I apply for FAFSA and TAP. I’m not attempting to hide it. My intention is to not transfer credits I didn’t plan on transferring. My intention is not to be unethical.

Secondly, there’s been a huge learning curve on the practicalities of attending college for me due to my background. I know there are first gen college students. I’m also aware that CCNY was once upon a time free which enabled a massive amount of students to attend college. A few big names would be Donald Newman, Leonard Susskind, and Gregory Chaitin.

Please either say something meaningful and be useful. You’ve literally contributed nothing to the discussion or situation.

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Sybbie works in the system. I’d pay close attention to what she has to say.

I’m not sure the SUNY will release your transcripts if you owe them money. You might want to contact them to set up a payment plan if you haven’t already. Sometimes colleges will release the trsnscripts if they’re getting their money.

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It is not a matter of whether or not it is your intent to transfer your credits. It was your responsibility to submit all of your transcripts

What does any of this have to do with your current situation?

The fact that CUNY used to be free before your lifetime has nothing to do with the here and now.

Just so that you know, when CUNY went from being free to charging tuition, that is when the state implemented TAP (the tuition aid program). So between TAP, PELL (which was BEOG back in the day), SEEK and College discovery, there was still an avenue for low income students to attend college. Yes, I know first hand because I was a low income student who was admitted to CUNY the first year they changed their policy to charging tuition.

What is the huge learning curve? If one can achieve a 3.9 gpa one can certainly read simple instructions

This is in plain simple english. Where is the confusion? Where is the big learning curve? You send transcripts from every college you attended.

I applied to take a few courses at Hunter for a certification. I completed college and hold 3 masters. Guess, what they wanted every single transcript.

Then you should not have applied to college, knowing that you needed to send your transcript and you would not be able to send it.

There is no right way to do something that you know is wrong.

You did the wrong thing; just say my bad and work with them to correct the situation and accept the consequences that may come for not doing the right thing. That is what grown people do; children make excuses, look for others to blame and try to muddy the water. The truth is a bitter pill. Just because you don’t think I am contributing anything productive because it is not what you want to hear, does not make it any less true.

Right now you are talking out of your hat and making excuses for not doing the right thing.

But is all good; CCNY and CUNY will come down on you with a quickness and you will have time to think about your next step as they make notations on your transcript that you were suspended from CUNY.

When this happens you will have made a mess in the CUNY system, the SUNY system and with private school. you will run out of places and financial aid soon enough.

deuces

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What did happen then? Did the College know that you didn’t submitt all the transcripts?