<p>Are you sick of highly paid teachers?
Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or10 months a year! It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do - babysit!
We can get that for less than minimum wage.</p>
<pre><code> That's right. Let's give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan-- that equals 6 1/2 hours).
Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day...maybe 30? So that's $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day.
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<p>However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.
LET'S SEE....
That's $585 X 180= $105,300
per year. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries).</p>
<p>What about those special
education teachers and the ones with Master's degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an
hour. That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year.
Wait a minute -- there's
something wrong here! There sure is!
The average teacher's salary
(nation wide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days
= $277.77/per day/30
students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student--a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!) WHAT A DEAL!!!!</p>
<p>Yeah, that sounds great. Unfortunately, like a lot things on the internet it is also complete rubbish. Teachers don’t teach individuals. They teach classes. You can’t just multiply by 30 like that.</p>
<p>They also teach more than 30 kids a day, unless they don’t teach more than 1 or 2 classes. Plus, they do more than babysit.</p>
<p>I agree with the position (pay teachers more), but if you applied their method in a more realistic way (taking into account ** all ** of their kids, ** all ** of the extra time they put in helping students both in and out of school, etc) then the pay would be ridiculous.</p>
<p>So, yes, it’s interesting, but ultimately very flawed. Of course, not all things are meant to be taken literally, so whatever.</p>
<p>But yeah, teachers sure as hell don’t get paid enough. And that, America, is why our public education system sucks so much: most people that are smart and educated enough to be good teachers can make more money elsewhere… so many of the people that end up teaching are less-than-qualified…</p>
<p>^I don’t think it’s fair to create this hierarchy of jobs, because then you have people disrespecting others based on their jobs. For instance, jobs such as being a janitor and driving a bus are deemed as incredibly unimportant, and therefore the people are not respected. Yet, where would we be without custodial staff or public transportation workers? All jobs contribute something to society, no matter how big or small.</p>
<p>The vast majority of the population isn’t bus drivers or custodians, though. </p>
<p>Trust me, I believe everyone’s job is important(except celebrities), especially the ones who get the short end. </p>
<p>But we could still have custodians and cleaners etc without having teachers. Without teachers, we wouldn’t have Much of a stable society (not that we have one now.)</p>
<p>Living in a town where teachers make 130k+ a year, it is insanity. That is why my parents will be moving the minute my brothers and sister leave to college.</p>
<p>The thing is they get much more time off than most other jobs they worke nine months a year plus they get weekends and holidays off. My moms friend calculated it and they get about $40 an hour and they don’t even (most of the time) go to graduate school.</p>
<p>Where do you live where teachers get $40/hr? My mom is a nurse in the only unit in the tri state area and doesn’t get that. </p>
<p>Maybe we should extend the school year to 11 months. Maybe that’s why America is stupid. I know some schools now that go all year round. No need to have 2 months off</p>
<p>I think people would be comfortable paying teachers more, even lots more. The problem is outcomes: our kids are most uneducated even after the ministrations of the teachers. If our kids turned out of school as good thinkers, good writers, good math, etc. etc., I don’t think any of us would begrudge teachers what they make or, indeed, lobby for them to make more and tax ourselves to have that happen. The problem is that our kids are stupid, so we not impressed by demands that teachers want to make on us. Pay them more, for what? For this?</p>
<p>As for those who say, ok it’s all the parents fault and that parents needs to step up, etc. etc., my response is that all professions are full of problems and that, in respect of education, I expect that teachers are paid to deal with the problems presented to them in the form of students with bad parents. I also think that, with all that is paid to administrators in the educational system, the administrators better figure out how to make the teachers lives easier by, for example, segregating badly behaved kids in special facilities and letting them play with coloring books all day. Tough for them, but better for all the rest of us and the kids that need the education!</p>
<p>Did you just put more responsibility on the teachers than parents? Parents are the first and most important teachers. They’ll always be the most important.</p>
<p>My post said nothing about the responsibility of parents. That’s a different thread. My point was that, even given the irresponsiblity of (some) parents, with the inevitable follow-on consequences for the behavior and educational readiness of their kids, teachers’ job description includes dealing with this and still producing a quality product. Too often, we ourselves or teachers themselves excuse the poor quality product they produce by saying (in effect) garbage in, garbage out. I say, rather, teacher get paid to deal with crap material and improve it – that’s the job. Further, however, I believe that administrators get paid to reduce the crap that teachers have to deal with, but they don’t – they absolutely need to separate out of class the disruptive, disinterested and useless students and give them play doh (even at the age of 15), let them wear their flat-brimed baseball caps backwards and low on the back of their necks and train them for meaningful careers behind the counters of 7-11s.</p>
<p>It’s simple: teaching needs to be a higher-paying job. If teaching pays more, better-qualified people will see teaching as a viable opportunity to meet their financial needs, and our children will have better educations. </p>
<p>I know plenty of people that would make fantastic teachers but want to make more. I myself would love to be a teacher, but in order to pay for the kinds of colleges I want to go to and be able to do for my kids what was done for me, I need to make more money than most teaching positions pay.</p>
<p>Completely agree with Izzy. If teachers made 100,000, even 70-80, it would suddenly become a lot more attractive field for some of our best young minds (sorry for the corny factor. :D) It’s just ridiculous how little teachers get paid… our education system truly is broken.</p>
<p>The unions are also partially to blame, in terms of the education system as a whole: I wouldn’t begrudge most of my teachers getting paid a lot more, but a select few have tenure, can thus only be fired for sexually abusing kids or like beating them, and are just absolutely awful teachers. They don’t deserve s***.</p>