<p>uhmm go to yale.. you'll pay it back in no time.. and they prob have a 1% admittance rate for transfers.. harvars didnt accept any transfers last year</p>
<p>umm... we know he should goto yale.. but if ur parents arent agreeing, then face it. If its a burden of any sort, u have to listen to them and honour their wishes</p>
<p>I'm not sure if anyone has suggested this... But if your parents are planning on paying 10k anyway, couldn't you just cover the remaining 4k? I'm sure they would agree that it is a reasonable amount to handle.</p>
<p>Armani,
I actually agree with Tony -- but only if it's necessary to go that far. Before I do such a thing, though, I think you have to "screw up the courage," as Shakespeare said, and confront your parents. Perhaps that conversation could occur after you have a prior conversation with Yale financial aid office. Backing up here....</p>
<p>Your parents cannot "make" you go to your State school unless you let them. Whether your relationship with them is great or awful, whether they actually do or do not have the $4,000 in gap money, they are not obliged to give you the $4K -- not legally, not culturally, not anything. If you feel that you can't or don't want to earn $4K, or even earn a dime while in college (or summers), then it is your CHOICE to go to the in-State; that would be the price you pay for not meeting the gap for Yale.</p>
<p>If you are motivated to go to Y & willing to work & get loans for the $4K, I would go to Yale fin. aid, ask for an app't to sit down with them & work out a proposal you could bring to your parents. Find out, with Yale, how much you could realistically earn per school yr. with a campus job (without jeopardizing your studies), & what terms a remaining loan would be. Clearly you can also work summers, full-time. Explain that you're trying to negotiate with parents, & are extremely motivated to go to Y, & you need numbers that you can show your parents. If Y's numbers still leave a little owing, you can ask your parents for a loan for the difference (if they have it, & want to do that), or you may choose to go it on your own. </p>
<p>Again, your parents may or may not really <em>have</em> the $4K (or feel they cannot part with it, due to the danger of living close to the vest, etc.). Some parents also feel principled about not providing such gap aid to their 18-yr-olds. I don't feel that way (if I had the $), but I respect diff. opinions.</p>
<p>Many students at HYP have campus jobs; most are ~10hrs/wk. And they have full study loads. It's not that big a deal. It just means a little discipline. You didn't juggle hours doing e.c.'s + studies in high school? You could make $3K working on campus, and take out a measly $1K loan per yr. That's not worth it to you? </p>
<p>We know a freshman at MIT who is working 20 hrs/ wk and taking a full load of studies. That is what her fin. aid package required. Her parents are middle class; she was "granted" a lot by MIT, but was not dirt-poor enough to get fully granted. But she desperately wanted to go to MIT & wants to be an engineer. (She was also accepted to Berkeley -- her in-State.)</p>
<p>Oh suze, I'm not looking for sympathy.
" Worth " is all relative.
Go Bruins!</p>
<p>My parents would live on the streets if they had too but, they would send me to Yale, and I'd take out loans, hold two jobs etc etc, but I'd go to Yale.</p>
<p>O, and if your dad is make $98,000 a year, what's the problem with paying?</p>
<p>If you miss up on an opportunity like Yale, you will not only regret your decision for the rest of your life, but you will most likely be bitter towards your parents for pushing you into that situation.</p>
<p>By the way, many people would kill to be in your shoes. I'd say go for it even though it means breaking off from your parents for awhile. In the end, it's all going to be worth the trouble.</p>
<p>I think that we are not getting the full story here. In the first place, this is a kid who seems very immature and reluctant to work:
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I don't think it's at all possible to work as an 18yr old in college and make 10K a year. (Post #9)
i just looked over the package again. 32,000 in Yale scholarship and 4,400 in Self-help, which is the work-study. So it's really 14k i'd have to come up with, (Post #15)
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Any other kid would already be out looking for work - if anything, my experience has been that kids are over-optimistic about how much money they can earn. This kid is even looking at his college work-study award as something that he must somehow "come up" with. </p>
<p>It really isn't unusual for parents to expect their kids to contribute. Armani seems to be full of excuses, but I still don't know what's preventing the kid from going out and getting a job. According to the stats he posted way back in November, he's worked before as a tutor, so obviously the parents allow the kid to work.
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But really, my parents are NOT taking out a loan for undergrad, they've repeated that a million times to me; especially because i'm going to medical school, where they say the loans are really worth it. (Post #9)</p>
<p>My parents, you see, won't LET me pay for it myself.
then theres another problem...in 2007-2008, i will be the only kid in college, so my EFC will skyrocket upwards, but thats another issue. (Post #15)
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So here is a set of parents looking at med school on the horizon - which they plan to pay for, in full, including taking out loans; and the parents also know that whatever Yale has offered in need-based aid for the coming year will evaporate the following year, when the EFC will skyrocket. </p>
<p>Seems to me that these parents are just being practical -- and when it comes down to it, Armani doesn't really want to face up to reality. The parents aren't looking at +$10K this year, times 4 years -- they are looking at +10K this year and possibly +$20K next year, for an overall cost of $70K as compared to $16K for the state school, and they are trying to save up so they can put the kid through med school. </p>
<p>Armani isn't going to leave his parents to get a job -- he's got a good deal as it is. He's just here looking for people to feel sorry for him.</p>
<p>^ well if you do really well at state school, you'll still get into a good medical schools.... I mean its not like your patients are going to look @ your colleges and whatnot....</p>
<p>But if you really want to goto Yale, just don't let them tell you how to decide ur life...</p>
<p>If you go to Yale, the worst that could happen is that your parents won't support you financially.</p>
<p>Do you really think that, 10 years down the road, your parents won't talk to you ? "I'm sorry, but you went to Yale!!!"</p>
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Any other kid would already be out looking for work - if anything, my experience has been that kids are over-optimistic about how much money they can earn. This kid is even looking at his college work-study award as something that he must somehow "come up" with.</p>
<p>It really isn't unusual for parents to expect their kids to contribute. Armani seems to be full of excuses, but I still don't know what's preventing the kid from going out and getting a job. According to the stats he posted way back in November, he's worked before as a tutor, so obviously the parents allow the kid to work.
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But really, my parents are NOT taking out a loan for undergrad, they've repeated that a million times to me; especially because i'm going to medical school, where they say the loans are really worth it. (Post #9)</p>
<p>My parents, you see, won't LET me pay for it myself.
then theres another problem...in 2007-2008, i will be the only kid in college, so my EFC will skyrocket upwards, but thats another issue. (Post #15)
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So here is a set of parents looking at med school on the horizon - which they plan to pay for, in full, including taking out loans; and the parents also know that whatever Yale has offered in need-based aid for the coming year will evaporate the following year, when the EFC will skyrocket.</p>
<p>Seems to me that these parents are just being practical -- and when it comes down to it, Armani doesn't really want to face up to reality. The parents aren't looking at +$10K this year, times 4 years -- they are looking at +10K this year and possibly +$20K next year, for an overall cost of $70K as compared to $16K for the state school, and they are trying to save up so they can put the kid through med school.</p>
<p>Armani isn't going to leave his parents to get a job -- he's got a good deal as it is. He's just here looking for people to feel sorry for him.
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<p>So if you were in his situation, you'd pass up Yale for a state school? Personally, I would rather get two jobs throughout summers, a loan, and a job while studying and go to Yale then to lay back and go to a state school.</p>
<p>Last year when my S was a senior in hs, he worked about 30 hours a week (more during the summer) at a local grocery store. He still managed to get top notch grades and have a (social) life too. He made $10,000 last year. It can be done.</p>
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His situation is that he really doesn't want to work and he wants his parents to pay for med school, plus he knows the cost of Yale will double next year when his older sibling graduates from college.</p>
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Well yeah, if he doesn't want to work, then he's the one to blame, but still I can't imagine how they could discourage him from going to Yale. There are people that dream of going there.</p>
<p>Amari, what state school are you referring to? UCLA?</p>
<p>Could defer for a year and earn some money.</p>
<p>He doesn't want to work according to calmom. Also, I think it's a waste of time going to Yale, if you don't want to work.</p>
<p>i know everyone here is pro-yale but i'd totally advise you to go to columbia :)</p>
<p>Still ivy...</p>