<p>YALE
COLUMBIA
BU
BC
USC
UCLA
BERKELEY
UCSD
JHU
EMORY
RICE
U MIAMI
NYU</p>
<p>Rejected: HARVARD</p>
<p>Where am I going?: my fu**ing state school!!!!! i can't believe me parents!! they are making me go because the school is giving me $4000 short of a full ride. Yale, where i reallllly want to go, is giving me $36000 a year. I really can't believe i have to say no to all those prestigious schools to my state school!! anyway heres my point............</p>
<p>Given that i was already accepted into Yale, and i emailed my admissions counselor from my area and told him that good conscience and financial reasons have led me to take the full ride at my state school, and that i would like to transfer next year, how possible is it that i can? i know that transferring is extra-hard, but i was already accepted. i plan to apply for lots of scholarships</p>
<p>wait did you tell yale you werent going to attend already!?</p>
<p>honestly, $4,000 is not a lot. you can easily make just short of $2,000 at a minumum wage job over the summer. and you really need to talk to your parents, maybe into cosigning a loan?</p>
<p>I don't get it -- if Yale is giving you $36K.... why can't you make up the difference without your parent's help??? I don't know what overall costs of attendance are at Yale, but let's assume that it is $46K -- you need to come up with $10K. Except it isn't 10K up front, because Yale has built in some soft costs: the cost of books, transportation, incidentals-- all of which are pay-as-you-go, and can also be shaved by making frugal choices. If Yale offers more than one option for a meal plan, then you can opt for the cheapest meal plan and save another few hundred. </p>
<p>You could be looking for a summer job right now, and if you are smart enough to get into Yale & Columbia, you ought to be able to earn well above minimum wage. Or here's an idea: try working TWO jobs over the summer. And plan on working year-round, while you attend school. </p>
<p>Oh, and do you have any stuff that you don't really need? Try ebay. Did you read about the guy who has managed to barter a paperclip on craiglist into a years' worth of rent? His goal is to keep on trading up until he owns a house. </p>
<p>I'm not saying it is easy -- but I think that if you really wanted Yale badly enough you would be trying to think of ways to raise the money instead of blaming your parents. The bottom line is that Yale has given you a financial aid package that covers more than the full cost of tuition -- so all you need to worry about are your housing costs & incidentals.</p>
<p>This makes no sense. $36K is close enough to what your state school is offering. You're talking about working a little harder this summer and a modest loan.</p>
<p>Armani, are you a troll? In an earlier post you say your family has a $17K income with 3 kids in college. Unless you somehow bought a million dollar home, you should be able to go to any need based aid school really comfortably. What's up?</p>
<p>the 17K is the ADJUSTED gross income. my father works overseas. he makes about $98000 a year, but you can deduct up to 80k from your taxes (foreign income exclusion), which makes your adjusted gross income really low. so he really makes almost 100k, which the colleges obviously now, but on paper, the "total income" is in the teens.</p>
<p>yea...the overall cost based on the finaid package they sent was 46k (includes tuition, housing, books, travel and personal expenses). I still haven't sent the email syaing I won't be attending. But really, my parents are NOT taking out a loan for undergrad, they've repeated that a million times to me; especially because i'm going to medical school, where they say the loans are really worth it. I've tried talking to them, telling them that I will pay it back and that I will take responsibility for it. they won't listen. The thing is, our culture isn't about the "once you're 18, you're outta the house and on your own." Parents are expected to pay for and provide everything until basically marriage. I don't think it's at all possible to work as an 18yr old in college and make 10K a year.</p>
<p>I'm seriously so depressed and my parents just don't really care. Dont get me wrong, i'm extremely thankful for everything theyve given me my whole life and they tell me if it was financially possible, they would let me go. but STILL, $40,000 for four years for a Yale education</p>
<p>Even a $100K salary with 3 kids in college would leave your family with significant aid. Ubnless your 2 sibs are on full rides, they are probably already paying their full EFC already. Anyway, wouldn't Yale be worth the loans over the $36K you say they're offering. About $25K for a Yale education? Middle class kids in Cali are borrowing that per year for a state school education. What's wrong with this picture?</p>
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The thing is, our culture isn't about the "once you're 18, you're outta the house and on your own." Parents are expected to pay for and provide everything until basically marriage. I don't think it's at all possible to work as an 18yr old in college and make 10K a year.
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Then I hate to say it, but you probably aren't Yale material anyway. You've clearly got the academics part down cold, but you are weak on the initiative and leadership part, which I know is very important to Yale. </p>
<p>It doesn't matter that your "culture" says that parents are expected to pay for everything -- you can break that pattern if you want. I was raised back in prehistoric times when the dominant American culture was that females were supposed to grow up and get married. When I was a little girl people used to laugh at me when I told them what I wanted to be when I grew up. That didn't stop me from aspiring to seek a career requiring graduate level training.</p>
<p>I already told you how to shave some of the total costs down through economizing -- and I made good suggestions about work and alternative ways to raise money. $10K is nothing --and I already pointed out that you don't need that anyway when you economize on many of the budgeted costs. Many students are given work-study awards for $4 or $5K, meaning they are expect to earn that money during the school year. </p>
<p>Anyway, I am not trying to be mean, but we all have a choice: we can sit back and accept what happens to us, and find someone else to blame for whatever we can't have - or we can take initiative and try to change it.</p>
<p>Armani. Just like calmom said, take some initiative and change what's happening around you. You have a good shot to change your life and future to something great if you can just take some initiative. You don't want to regret it 4 years later just because you didn't want to work some hours for $10k. =] best of luck. my say: Put 110% into going for Yale.</p>
<p>check that....its really 32K scholarship. i just looked over the package again. 32,000 in Yale scholarship and 4,400 in Self-help, which is the work-study. So it's really 14k i'd have to come up with, which is pretty much like the 10K so it doesnt make any difference.</p>
<p>i understand what you guys are saying about the initiative. My parents, you see, won't LET me pay for it myself. It's not just the culture as much as it is my parents. They know I wouldnt be able to support myself trying to cough up 14K, and its just not financially possible for them to pay, or so they say. anyway, no one answered my question about transferring in maybe end of freshman or sophomore year. I want to really work and save up my money and apply to lots of big scholarships...then i wudnt have to rely on my parents and my parents won't have any excuses. but then theres another problem...in 2007-2008, i will be the only kid in college, so my EFC will skyrocket upwards, but thats another issue. any thoughts about transferring?</p>
<p>Sounds like the parents are astill making all your decisions. Maybe they don't understand the difference between your opportunities. It's just so sad to see someone throw away what so many would kill for when it's totally attainable. It's your life.</p>
<p>Carebear, I have less sympathy reading your many posts. UCLA OOS si just not worth it.</p>
<p>If you are saying that next year you will be the only one in your family in college, why not join Yale and try to pay off the 14k cos from next year your parents would be able to afford your education as your siblings would have finished college.</p>
<p>As much as I hate to suggest this, I would temporaily break off wit your parents if I have to. Your 18, and you sure as hell can loan that difference (and $14K isn't that big of a deal compare to other ppl).
Let's put it this way, your education is for yourself, not for them. By the time you start reflecting on your choices (i.e this one), they will be long gone.
Sometimes you just have to be man enough (no offense ladies) to make your own decisions. Your decisions define who you are and who you will be.
Ok, I know this post may sound horrible to some people, but that's just the truth.</p>
<p>Er...please go to Yale. You can take out loans for the remainder that your parents won't pay, and it probably won't kill you since they seem to have still offered you a generous amount of money. I'm sure you'll be able to pay it back with your Yale degree...</p>
<p>If not, can you give me your acceptance? ;) J/K</p>