I got this email from UCR today. Is this a guaranteed rescind?

I can’t tell if this is a generic response to a D grade or not. I got one before this saying they would have to wait and see until 2nd semester. Then I got this one:

“Thank you for providing the information about your AP Calculus course. Your Provision of Admission states that you must pass all A-G courses during your senior year with a grade of “C” or better. Therefore, because you received a “D” grade in your AP Calculus course, you are no longer eligible and your admission to UC Riverside will be rescinded unless you are able to make up the deficient grade by your high school graduation date. An official decision will be made on your file once we have received your official final high school transcript and all grades are reviewed. Please make sure to submit your final high school transcript to the Admissions Office by July 1, 2016.”

At the bottom is still says an official decision will be made as if they still may not rescind me. I’m flipping out, and it looks like they are saying that I will be rescinded but they may just be trying to scare me into working harder this semester. Calc AB first semester should be the only D I have all of senior year.

If you receive a “C” or higher in Calculus second semester, it will validate the “D” you received first semester. The letter you just received is a little confusing, but as long as you earn a “C” or better (and it sounds like you think you will), you should be okay.

@oneofthosemoms, Thank you for your response, I hope that this is definitely the case. I was surprised at how direct they were in the email, but I guess I will have to wait and see.

@hiddendragon11 Hey I was just curious, did you already fulfill your A-G requirements for math prior to receiving a D in AP Calculus?

@pandalambo, I am very sure I did. From freshman to junior year (including summer, I took Algebra 1, Geometry, Algebra 2 H, Trig H and got Bs and above.

I’m hoping that when they make the official decision that they will have my transcript and the diagnosis is different.

Another question to this forum, I asked my admissions counselor for more specificity regarding if there was any exception to a grade below a “C”, and he said this in two different emails:

“Any deficient grade in your transcript, senior year, the university will rescind your application.”
and
“Unfortunately, you must have no deficient grades in either semester of senior year.”

I haven’t been officially rescinded, and I hope that this is just him stating the worst case. The admissions office still has to make the judgement with my full transcript of senior year’s grades, and I’m hoping that what he says isn’t definite as if I’m getting automatically rescinded, with zero tolerance for any D’s. Unless they happen to have changed their policy this year?

The way I read the letter you got, it seems to indicate that you need to avoid D’s in both semesters of senior year. That means that the D you received first semester must become a C somehow (i.e. you need to retake the class or work something out with the teacher). Do you receive a final grade for the entire year, or just two semester grades each year? If the latter, you need to get the D “fixed”.

You may want to actually call and talk to your admissions counselor, as e-mailing can be misleading (especially if you want to read it one way).

Go back to your math teacher, let him/her know the predicament you are in, and see if you can do extra work or whatever to get that D moved to a C-. If you are doing better this semester, hopefully they would be willing to work with you on that.

Good luck.

@FilmerMom, It seems that way to me too, but it seems strange considering UCR is normally at least somewhat lenient with D’s in non-required classes, but with these emails it seems that any D’s at all will guarantee rescission.

For UCR, does a C second semester validate a D from first semester?

@loubear5 I’m not sure what you mean by “validate”, but UCs consider each semester separately. So, a D in one semester is not “overwritten” by an A the next semester. Each grade is separately considered.

It does seem, though, that they might cut some slack for someone who does better second semester. At least, I would, but I’m not an admissions person.

I’d call the admissions officer asap, and talk live. Ask them what to do to avoid getting rescinded if you have that one D. See if you can appeal or get reinstated if they do rescind you, like retaking the class over the summer.

@loubear5, I asked my Admissions Counselor this:
ME: “Would a passing grade of a C- or higher in 2nd semester count as remediation/validation towards my D in 1st semester?”

All he replied with was this:
COUNSELOR: “Unfortunately, you must have no deficient grades in either semester of senior year.”

But on the UC validiation matrix:
http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/counselors/files/validation_matrix_math_lote.pdf

It says Calc AB semester 2 validates semester 1. For some reason my admissions counselor is talking about the grades in absolutes, like I will be rescinded for sure. (Don’t think I can make up Semester 1 Calc by graduation)

@loubear5:
This is from the UC website::::
A student earned a grade of C or better in the second semester of a math course, but earned a D grade in the first semester. Can the second semester grade validate the D grade?

The math (“c”) subject area is one of two subject areas where a grade of C or better earned in the second semester of the course can validate a grade of D or F received in the first semester. This validation rule pertains to all levels of math courses, including Geometry.

Using a second-semester grade of C or better to validate a D or F grade earned in the first semester will not replace the deficient grade calculated into the UC GPA. Only if the first semester of the course is repeated would the repeated grade replace the original D or F in the UC GPA.

@hiddendragon11, you can see on the matrix that a “C” or higher validates the “D” from first semester. That’s straight from the UC itself. So to put your mind at ease, please call the UCR Admissions Office and put the question directly to them.

@hiddendragon11 That’s what I thought. He said the same thing to me but there’s no way I can remediate my grade before graduation. Do you know if there’s any other options right now?

@loubear5, Is your counselor Mr Lopez? If so I’m hoping that he’s just giving very stern and vague responses in order for us to get our grades up.

So far that seems like the only option, but I am hoping that the validation matrix is the ruling that the admissions office will use for the official decision.

Here’s another update, I asked him about the validation matrix and he said this:

“Validating your course is not a problem – the grade that you have earned is.”

I’m lost now. So from what he’s saying, they are just going to ignore the validation fact and rescind me because I received a D? I really hope he isn’t the one making the final decisions, because in that a case a lot of people with any mention of a D on their transcript for senior year will end up getting rescinded.

It seems to me that the validation matrix relates only to initial admissions and does not apply to your situation. Stated differently, the requirement to retain your admission is to not get any grade senior year lower than a C. Seems to me that to avoid being rescinded, you need to somehow get the D changed to a C. Good luck!

How likely is this a scare tactic? Do we know if this admissions counselor will be single-handedly reviewing my admission when I send out the transcript? I don’t want to end up getting worked over nothing (I’m stressing out to hell right now, and making CC preparations just in case), especially because I’ll probably find out mid July about this.

Call UCR. Stop guessing.

“you are no longer eligible and your admission to UC Riverside will be rescinded unless you are able to make up the deficient grade by your high school graduation date.”

If you got a D as a final semester grade, it does not look good. That language quoted above sure seems to say if that first semester D still shows up on your final transcript, you will be rescinded.

But just call and ask them directly.