I have been at Stony Brook only one semester, and I have been bullied for the first time not only by students but by professors as well.
The list of things that are wrong with Stony Brook School of Business:
They force you to work in groups, and I get that practice help you develop leadership skills, but they over do it. WHY? because they are trying to get accredited (they are not), and the accreditation institution ask for peer reviews. It gets to a point where the professors are not teaching at all. All you do during the semester is deal with rude students who either don’t want you part of their group or they are calling on weekends harassing you with none related school work. The team work is not control, students are not trained on how to deal with a team, and what is appropriate or not, so EVERYTHING GOES. The professors who are “the managers.” since they are the ones who build these teams do not help, supervise, monitor, control, or manage any conflicts among teams. In fact, if you come to professors asking for help, they tell you if for you to “DEAL WITH IT.” One of my classmates was bullied so bad, and the professor blamed him because he said and I quote, “You need to learn to deal with it–meaning bulling and offenses.” Call me a tree huger, but even though the business world could tend to be competitive, one does not need to be discriminated, bullied and single out just because some kids (students) do not yet have the experience or ethics on how to talk to each other, or respect each other, or who to work in teams.
You are going to find using at some different points 80% of your study team dealing with team drama, not school work, drama and silly kids who do not know better. Leaving very little time to do exam studies etc.
In some classes the team (your team) is giving 100% power to decide your grade, yep, you heard me. YOUR FINAL GRADE IS DICTATED BY THE STUDENTS< NOT PROFESSORS. I found this interesting, so I started talking to other team members about their opinion. Some hated one team member and they all decided that they were all going to screw him by telling professor he did not work on the project. As good of a person and social reformer that I'm, I decided to speak to the student and warn him of what her female teammates were planning to do to him--I knew he has done tons of work, so they were just vindicated. How to avoid situation like this? Not setting up TEAM projects without any orientation or training, and by not giving students so much power. THAT IS JUST Create a hostile environment not conducive to learning or totally inappropriate for an adduction institution.
Bulling insults go from team members listing a long list of character defects towards their victims from making race remarks to picking on your country of origin, to your age, to the way you dress, the computer you use, etc. IT GETS REALLY INSANE AND INTENSE. If you are sill thinking on going to this school or are unfortunately already in this school, then you need to buy yourself a MAC, get some brand clothes and get your hear done because no only the students will treat you according to how you are dress, but he professors beehive the same way. (with some execution of course), but that tis the majority.
If you transfer business classes to Stony Brook School of Business, then get ready because the dean does not approve your classes, the professors who give those classes are going to review your course syllabus and they approve giving you the credit to transfer. DO YOU SEE THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST HERE? These professors are desperate to get students to sign up for their classes, so chances are that some of them might not accept all your courses, so you are obligated to re-take the course with them. Totally scary.
The deans office does not get involve with anything related to students, hence their transfer credit he is more of an administrator. If you have problems, or concerns his office tells you to talk to the secretaries downstairs or to advisors at the other office. Don't get me wrong; the dean is an amazing, nice and great guy. All professors loves him and I meet him in person, shame that you have no access to him when you need help with your classes.
They offer zero online class, and this goes to the entire Stony Brook University. I finished my associates and took all my liberal arts, when I transferred to another SUNY SCHOOL I only needed one or two DEC requirements (GENERAL EDUCATION). At STONY BROOK, you have no only retake all of them, but on top you need to take extras. You willl spend 3 semesters ONLY just trying to satisfy those DEC requirements. Do they offer any online? Only ONE. Yep, you heard it, only one Online class out of the almost hundred DEC classes, and you need permission and is hard to get register to that one.
WHY Stony Brook does not have online classes? The aster is easy, if you were to take one semester online, then you are expect from paying the school's over the top extra fees which totals about $1200. They charge for everything, transportation you take, athletics you don't use, health nursery you never go to, and the list piles up to a total of $1200.
SUNY charges the same fees no matter what school you go to. Those fees are about $3600 at Stony Brook you pay $5000 per semester (and this is living off campus) which they call COMMUTER.
My cousin is older than me, she is a mom and went back to school. If you older than 23, you are call a very offense name: NON-TRADITIONAL STUDENT. And watch out, the School of business won't let you join their honors program, if you are too old. The won't tell you that to your face, but there are a lot of benefits you lose for bing older. Stony Brook is not an age friendly school; all is design for young students.
Transportation: everyone knows this one, but I will mention it quick. If you never been at Stony Brook, and you think you will drive your car to the campus and it will be cool, you are wrong. There are not parking lots you can park near the university. In fact there are none. There is a parking lot very far away from the school that you need to park, and then you will have to wait outside in the call for a buss, which is always crowder and won't drop you near, you will have to work. In the summer is fun, but in winter is hell. Hence, having online classes available will help but they don't offer online courses.
The School of Business does not have a computer lab (which they call SINC SITE), they have one that is always close or open for very little time. In order to have access to a computer you will need to take a long walk to the library. So bring your own computer. It will be nice if they at least add a printing station, but guess? NO, The School of Business does not have a printing Station, so if you need to print a paper in a hurry you are out of luck. I remember one couple of classmate and I, leaving class to walk to library to print a paper we needed. Ridiculous!
Due to character limitations i wan’t able to put the entire list, so here it is:
Watch out what you say on an email, your emails are not private. The staff at Stony Brook has this horrible culture of fowling emails to parties you did not extend to send to. They do not ask for permission, they just do it. And many times to the wrong person or worse to a person you did not want him or her to read. I though, that if I include at the beginning of my email a note saying: DO NOT FOWARD-- THIS EMAIL IS INTENDED ONLY FOR XX department, that they will respect that request, well NO. They still forward it regardless. I can't believe there are zero policies about this. NEVER in the schools i have been seen staff forwarding confidential email to other people or departments. Very unethical and total invasion of your privacy. So if you have something important to say, or to complain. DO NOT COMMUNICATE VIA EMIAL talk in person.
TALKING IN PERSON: Staff at School of Business, is very very small, so they all talk. Staff talks to professors, and vise versa. Very soon one single incident you had in class, turns into a huge gossip. Very unpleasant.
All Adjunct professors share one conference room, they have no private rooms or desk, so what happened in your class with one professor, the other will know immediately, since there are a few classes, chances are that in one semester you are taking classes with two or three professors who meet at the room at the time.
Do not show up to the adjunct professors room if you see they are with another professor. They like to gossip about you. Talk to professors when no other professors are around, preferably after classes.
My cousin is an student with disability. Do you think disabilities office helps students in cases like you are sick at the hospital the day of a due paper, or an exam? NOPE!!!! Other Universities do help students, but this one does not get involve in that. They tell you to talk to the professor, and when the professor does not help you, he sends you to the dean just to be told to take a hike!! My cousin was never able to get an extension for one of his midterm exams. In another words, if you are disable, or not disable, but have health problems, family problems. The only person that has the power to help you is the professor. If you find a nice one you are save, if he is a jerk, you are skew.
16 My cousin with disabilities was hated by professors and students at the Business School for the following: a) he could not pull chairs (to get into teams), he could not meet 3 times a week as the TEAM (not the professor) had dictated, so his team was bulling him and were nasty to him-even when he explained his disability. One professor was piss at him for being 5 min late every Tuesday (class meets once a week), because he was walking slow from the Javits Center to the Business school. Even though he explained this, the professor didn’t care and continue to take points and be upset at him. I understand that business professors get their experience from the corporate America which is can get cut throat, but this is an educational institution, not a cooperation (i think), and the students are not your ass$%^&e co-workers, they are young students who look up to you for guidance and help. Don’t treat them like a piece of meet, or the enemy, specially those with disabilities. My dousing ask disabilities office that the School of Business needed to send a memo or educate business professor on how to treat students with disabilities, but he was ignored. He did not have this bad experience outside the Business school. The DEC professors were nice and professional.
50% of classes I hate the professors don't teach, and I know this is a command complain with college kids, but I'm telling you the word LITERATELY. One of my classes the professor only talked about her career, her family, her personal life and random stuff no related to the class. Only once, and I'm not exaggerating did she got up from setting on top of the desk, to write something in the board, and that was at the end with only 6 students present. The whole class stopped attending because the professor wasn't teaching, students decided to relate on the book.
They do not accept class overtally. So if the class is full, you don't care to add one or two more students.
Their business curriculum show very cool classes that do not exist, or they are never available. They will tell you they will be available next semester, maybe, but they rarely do. The next semester the class curriculum was different, so the classes weren't even there, new ones show up. Then they tell you they are not available.
Most professors for undesired classes are adjusts. Which means people with masters and business experience. Few PhDs.
I was told by one professor that the University is trying to improve the Business School, but if they don't pull it together, they are thinking of closing the school. So you will have a diploma from an none-accredited school that does not longer exist. That is scary, hope that does not happened. To be fair, I asked about the accreditation and they said they are in the process of getting it, but could take a few years. But for what I see happening, I don't think they are ready to receive it. lol.
Most finance professors have terrible student reviews of professors who's accents are hard to understand, and other complains.
There is only one professor teaching one particular specialization, so if you think you can pick and have options you don't. You will be stock with the same processor, not only for that class, but for others. Right now I need to take one class, and it is only giving by the same individual who do not teach and is rude, very stressful to attend this school.
I could continue going on and on of how much the Business School stinks literately- the big conference hall right in front of the entrance hall. It is old!! But I will stop here.
Please forgive my spelling, I rushed it and I’m on my tablet, so it is a mess.
I have nothing to do with SUNY-SB and I don’t know the school well. But why OP choose that business school if it is not credited in the first place? Providing the allegations are true, just transfer, you don’t have to write a book here.
Hi,
The Business school isn’t as bad as you say. Yea its not the greatest but its not that bad. The school is more known for science and math. Look on the bright side the Business dept only had a couple professors and a few adjuncts now the numbers are far greater. About the accreditation, that is overrated anyway.
Other schools at Stony Brook University are fantastic. School of medicine, Journalism, Astronomy and physics, math, history majors etc. Great professional professors and a great experience with my DEKs.
Yesterday I saw two girls fighting in the school of business. It was all about some group project they were in. This is typically what you see often when you attend Stony Brook College of Business. One girl was very polite and the other was attacking her. Something similar happened to me twice, over the phone and in person. It is all about control. The professors and the College of Business office tells you that it is not their job to deal with this. I mean they just created this mess but don’t know how to fix it, or even care.
I write this so other students know what they are signing up for. I didn’t create a book. The college of business gave me this material to write. If they were doing their job professionally and right, it would be very hard to say much…
To answer your questions: Stony Brook has a high reputation around the world in their science and medicine fields. If you are interested meteorology, this is a great school and professors are fantastic. I have amazing memories, experience and I learned a lot from my DEC professors. It could be a good idea if some of the business professors at the business school could go and seat at one of the science classes at Fray Hall or Javits building so they get a sense how academia looks and how professors teach and behave towards students.