I have to take the TOEFL? really?

<p>I've been in the U.S. for 8 years and my family still doesn't have a green card. So I will be applying as an international student. Does that mean I'll have to take the TOEFL? </p>

<p>plz say no... plz plz plz say no</p>

<p>where's your family from?</p>

<p>china, I've already taken SATs and ACT. Plus, I was educated here and I've been living here and speaking english for 8 years as well...</p>

<p>I doubt it if you show them that you can speak fluent English, which of course you can. 8 years and still no green card yet? Yall need to get on that cause it sucks being considered as an international.</p>

<p>Well, for some dumb flick reason, we didn't even think about it until a couple of months ago. And it looks like the green card won't be in hand by the time college apps are due. But it IS possible that by next fall, we MIGHT have it?...</p>

<p>So due to that little detail, is it likely that admission officers would consider me more as a resident than an international student? or will the high competition in the international pool still affect me greatly.</p>

<p>no, you're still considered as an international student, because of your citizenship status.
sorry. However, if you've shown that you're fluent, you don't need to take the TOEFL.
I moved here from Taiwan 3 years ago, but I'm taking AP English classes, etc, no ESL so I'm not taking the TOEFL as I've shown that I'm fluent in English.</p>

<p>When my mom, who is British trough and through and an English prof on top of that, moved to the US and enrolled for some classes at Georgetown she was asked if she had taken her TOFEL. Imagine her response...</p>

<p>Good luck with your applications!</p>

<h2>You shouldn't have to take it.</h2>

<p>It's actually not that easy to get a green card.
Even harder to become a citizen.
US Immigration really ****es me off.
They screen /innocent/ people so ridiculously and still overlook the terrorists.</p>

<p>^ seriously. double-u tee eff</p>