<p>Shoot. this has me worried too.</p>
<p>Although I didnt make any changes to my schedule, the very last quarter I got
1 C+
1 B+
1 A</p>
<p>(I only have 3 classes)
The rest of the quarters I had all A’s (actually 1 other B)</p>
<p>Will that 1 C affect my admission status?!??!?!</p>
<p>“I’m fine with not being eligible for Fafsa, but COME ON.”</p>
<p>Being eligible for FAFSA does not make you eligible for instate tuition, but if you aren’t eligible for FAFSA you aren’t eligible for instate tuition.</p>
<p>Sorry if my words were harsh, but your not in my situation, so you dont really understand the anger I felt, I truly love UCLA, Ive visited, and even lived on campus, I just think that if you pay taxes supporting a school for long enough, they shouldnt screw you over. </p>
<p>I cant do fafsa because i dont have an ssn, my friend just came from egypt, NO SSN, Was in California for less than a year but instate tuition at UCB, now what? She said she applied the first time and didnt get instate, but applied second semester and got it…HOW does that happen?</p>
<p>you moved to the US for 2 years and dont have an SSN? dont you need that for like…everything?!</p>
<p>I dont recall clearly, but didnt the actual UC application require a ssn??? And from the looks of it so far, you need to have the last 4 digits of your ssn to get clearance practically everywhere in college nowadays.</p>
<p>you guys think everything is so simple, because it should be. But every process known to man is made 10x more complicated by the UC system.</p>
<p>now, i have no idea what my dad did when we moved here, but he obviously didnt get me a ssn, i have a tax identification number though. honestly…maybe i should have checked on what my parents were doing. but the main reason there is a difference between instate and outofstate is TAXES. They want the kids whos parents paid taxes supporting THEIR schools to have lower tuition. Understandable. Im not going to get into the illegals getting instate, but they really need to make the rules leniant, because I applied as an instate student, and was accepted as one. With my stats, I doubt Id get in applying as out of state, with less than 5% being out of state…</p>
<p>So I am not in a financial place where I can go get a lawyer, Im going to think of what to do…especially since 1000 is due on the 15th for my initial payment…man im guessing most of you guys got to pay 400, so far on ucla we have spent nearly 2100. Its like you guys do know how much my family makes …right. cause that was on the application.</p>
<p>Not sure what you getting at but you do know that people who pay 400 end up paying the same amount in the end right? The initial payment is just deferred and added onto your quarterly or monthly payments. It’s not as if you pay 400 and save on the rest. I had the option of paying 400, but I wasnt in super dire need of deferring my payments so I just paid the initial payment. </p>
<p>I’m not entirely sure if its the UC system that has to be lenient. Doesn’t the side of responsibility air on the one filing out the application? You are the one who said you are instate and they accepted you as one, but you may or may not be an instate student. According to UCLA you are not. I’m not sure either since many people brought up good points but you haven’t said anything to shed light on the issue so we are all guessing if you are indeed an instate student or not.</p>
<p>yeah you might be misinterpreting financial aid. It’s mainly loans. everyone pays similar amounts in the long run, it’s the timing of payments that’s different for everyone. A grant, however, is free money. The calgrant for example is based primarily on gpa throughout high school; Im sure the gpa is transferable between high schools domestically, but not many people are in the unique situation you’re in. Once you get this tuition fiasco settled, look into some scholarships/grants and go from there in terms of extra finances, and research into fafsa to check out some student loan info.</p>
<p>Now this is getting annoying. You asked us for guidance, I devoted a portion of my time doing research on this topic and gave you recommendations, and only thing I get from you is more complaint on why the UC system is horrible without providing the needed information.</p>
<p>Have you even talked to the school on why you were not given the California Residency status? That’s the first step you should have already taken instead of writing an appeal letter. You need to drive down to UCLA, sit down, and have a talk with the administrators/counselors. Just coming over here and complaining about the policy will most definitely not solve the problem. Be rational. Find out what’s keeping you from gaining the Residency status. I don’t think you even know why you weren’t given the California Residency status. Stop making us guess what your situation is. We don’t know your Visa status (which is relevant) and your age (which matters a lot in this situation if you even read through my posts), both of which you should already have provided us with.</p>
<p>What you think is fair or unfair doesn’t mean anything in university’s point of view. All they care about is whether you are abiding to the policy that’s already been established. Welcome to Bureaucracy. By now you would’ve realized that the system isn’t as simple as you wished it to be. Merely paying state taxes don’t automatically make you a California resident, just as paying Federal tax doesn’t suddenly change your status to a Citizen. So stop with the argument of “I paid taxes! I deserve to pay in-state rate!” because it just makes you want to oversimplify the process. It won’t work.</p>
<p>Those who are responding to this thread, please think twice before throwing out assumptions/opinions that don’t accumulate any aid to the OP’s serious situation… I don’t have much information to help her either, but I honestly think she needs to seek advice from the Residency office/FAO, not us…</p>
<p>I apologize in advance, I’m a little sensitive about this issue. In my case, I don’t have a SSN because my father has a Business Treaty Visa. Under that visa, dependents are not allowed to work - thus ineligible to apply for a SSN. Yes, you do need it for “everything” (FAFSA, scholarships, work permit, bank account…etc. but NOT for your college application. How do you think int’l students apply?) - this is the main concern for people like the OP and I. </p>
<p>One last thing.
NOT EVERYONE IS A CITIZEN OR PERMANENT RESIDENT. It’s not that simple guys…</p>
<p>dhl3, THANK YOU.
I think you solved half the problem already.</p>
<p>Binta, If you can’t get your father’s help with navigating the paperwork for in-state tuition, you will have a difficult time creating a convincing appeal. Ask your father what sort of visa he has and visit the appropriate UCLA web page to find how they deal with people in your situation. Take control of your own problem by talking to your parents and the university yourself. You can’t say, “i have no idea what my dad did when we moved here” and expect anyone else to solve your problem for you.</p>
<p>What visa does your dad have? Ask him.<br>
Then check out the UCLA website for information about noncitizens:
[UCLA</a> Registrar’s Office: Residence for Tuition Purposes–Noncitizens and Aliens](<a href=“http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/residence/noncit.htm]UCLA”>http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/residence/noncit.htm)
This web page offers a link to “contact information” as well.
If you aren’t willing to ask your dad vital questions, then you may need to wait until you can establish financial independence.</p>
<p>Stop comparing your situation to other students from different backgrounds. Your situation is not the same as theirs. It is not as simple as you seem to think, but in some ways, you are the one making it more difficult by failing to get basic information or follow up on anyone’s advice.</p>
<p>thank you for all putting up with my angst. </p>
<p>&& for the 400 inti. payment post, im sure you pay the same in the end, but i know fafsa/calgrant is covering most of those costs for you.</p>
<p>I have talked with a residence specialist, and I am 17, and Im TD apparently. She said my dad should apply for 1-485 wait 366 days, then I can get instate…which means ill be paying out of state for 09-10 and first quarter of second year at minimum.</p>
<p>I’ll find a way to make money. What about tutoring kids in Belair? That sound good?</p>
<p>:)
Glad to hear you are moving forward!
You might want to look for an on-campus job if UCLA has openings that aren’t restricted to students in work-study programs.</p>
<p>how do you know fafsa is covering most of these costs lol? it depends on the person, doesn’t it? anyways if that’s what you meant to say, next time say it.</p>
<p>I was in the exact same boat last year: got into UCLA, TD visa from canada, can’t afford the international tuition. But I found a way around it.
binta- the I-485 is… well if you are Chinese you can forget about that lol. first of all for I485 you need to have H visa. you cant apply for I-485 with a TN or TD, as I-485 is pretty much green card.
secondly, well… again, if you are chinese (that is, born in china maybe you are not lol but anyway) for people born in china, holding a H visa and having a master’s degree, the US government is currently processing the applications from 2000. So… yea… i really hope you werent born in the PRC
however, the good news is that you dont need the I-485 for in-state. if your dad can manage to get the H-1B visa, and you’d get the H4 dependant visa, after a year u’ll be in-state. At this point you can start worrying about the I-485 and pray that it will somehow speed up and you get it by the time you turn 21, because when you turn 21 u’d be back to international</p>
<p>There are other options too, I really want to help you, contact me with email or something.</p>
<p>good luck</p>
<p>did the OP really say that theyre trying to screw poor people and help the rich…?</p>
<p>indeed the op did</p>
<p>Do a google search because I think there is already a whole group of students involved in a lawsuit on the same or a similar topic</p>
<h2>how do you know fafsa is covering most of these costs lol? it depends on the person, doesn’t it? anyways if that’s what you meant to say, next time say it. </h2>
<p>Im sorry, but im sure you would be spiteful too if they were asking you to pay half of your families salary.</p>