I Honestly Want to Sue UCLA and Burn it to the Ground at this moment

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<p>I have been planning on going to UCLA for a while. Its been hard through high school, getting the grades I needed and such, and if all of you are on this board, Im sure you understand the relief you now feel that your in. But I'm not only in, but I got heavily screwed over. </p>

<p>So I am originally from Canada, but my dad worked here in California, and has for 3 years, so we moved here with him. I came to school 2 months late, but still caught up. I started preparing for the sat, and senior year, I applied for uc's. i got into davis, la, and sb, and it was hard for me between davis, and la, but i chose la. </p>

<p>so im in, and months after i accept them, they tell me im a non-resident, and that ill be paying nonresident tuition...wth. I'm like, why, because my dad's been paying taxes here for 3 years? Or is it because I just graduated from a california school, and feel so strongly that this is my new home. SO I send an appeal, because you can do that, and I got the letter today, saying No pretty much. This is so crazy to me because these people could have told me this BEFORE I accepted, then atleast I know that with Davis near my home, if I got out of state, I wouldnt be paying for room and boarding. But these guys know i live in the bay area, so obviously i will be living on campus. My parents cant afford out of state, its gonna be 50,000 altogether, when I know people so much richer paying less than 5,000 with there fafsa, and everything. I'm fine with not being eligible for Fafsa, but COME ON.</p>

<p>then to add to my agony, i find out today that illegal immigrants that have lived here can get in state residence....I soooo support that, I think people without great resources in life shouldnt be deterred from having the education they want. What I dont get is why I'm here legally.. lived here, graduated from a california high school, and they expect ME to pay 50,000. They know how much my parents make, how much siblings I have, that was in the application.</p>

<p>I NEED GUIDANCE. Is anyone out there that had to pay out of state residence there first year, but applied and got in state there second year. IF SO, what did you do differently, and what was your situation? If not, then my dreams have been tarnished, as to I could have easily chose UCDavis, and dealt with the out of state, as painful as it is, and commuted.</p>

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<p>when did YOU move to california (not your dad)?</p>

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<p>I agree with where VTECaddict is going at… I am not sure but I think you need to physically be in California for at least a year… look it up?</p>

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<p>Consult with your lawyer.</p>

<p>From my knowledge, if you moved to California when you were a minor, then your status is equal to that of your parents. If any one of your parents is considered a California resident before you turn 18, then you will also take the free-ride and be gained a status as a resident. Does your dad have a California driver’s license that’s at least one year old? Does he have a PERMANENT home with California address that is at least one year old? When did you move to California? Was 100% of his income reported on the California Tax Return? He could’ve been only paying the state taxes for the portions he earned in California. To be classified as a Resident, he must be paying state taxes on 100% of the income he earned. All these factors are considered when determining his residency status. He must prove his INTENT on becoming the residence. Merely working in California for three years and paying taxes don’t automatically make him a resident.</p>

<p>If you are not considered a resident (that is in the case neither your parents are considered California resident if you are under 18, or for any other reason), then you will be waivered the out-of-state tuition ONLY if you attended California High School for AT LEAST THREE YEARS, which you have not. It doesn’t matter if you graduated from California High School. If you didn’t attend for three years, you won’t be waivered.</p>

<p>If your parents were granted California Residency AFTER you turned 18, then you must declare your residency separately.</p>

<p>Again, consult with a lawyer.</p>

<p>In the mean time…</p>

<p>FILL THIS FORM OUT AND TURN IT IN IMMEDIATELY:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/forms/residenceclass.pdf[/url]”>http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/forms/residenceclass.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>It’s a petition for residence classification form. If lucky, the UCLA may approve you of your residency status. That is the least you can do on your own.</p>

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<p>BTW:</p>

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<p>with regards to this questions, I’m talking about one year old PRIOR to you turning 18, not from today.</p>

<p>Also, this may help you.</p>

<p>* Establishing Intent to Become a California Resident Indications of your intent to make California your permanent residence can include:</p>

<p>Registering to vote and voting in California elections; designating California as your permanent address on all school and employment records, including military records if you are in the military service; obtaining a California driver’s license or, if you never had a driver’s license from any state, a California Identification Card; obtaining California vehicle registration; paying California income taxes as a resident, including taxes on income earned outside California from the date you establish residence; establishing a California residence in which you keep your permanent belongings; licensing for professional practice in California; and the absence of these indications in other states during any period for which you claim California residence. </p>

<p>Documentary evidence is required. All relevant indications will be considered in determining your classification.*</p>

<p>Have your parents find two or three the documents above that prove both the INTENT and the REQUIRED LENGTH OF THEIR PRESENCE (1 Year) and bring it to UCLA administration building. Make sure they’ve fulfilled the requirement to become a resident BEFORE you turned 18.</p>

<p>Considering the options you have, the only way you are eligible to pay in-state tuition is to somehow prove that your parents had become California Resident when you were still a minor. If you are unable to do this, you’ll have to wait a year.</p>

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<p>I moved to California 2 years ago. My dad has had his license here since he got here, so 3 years ago. And hes been doing taxes, fully here for 3 years, and hes been working here fully for 3 years, and they just suck the poor, and help the wealthy, their ridiculus, why accept me if you know my dads income, and my situation, why accept me?</p>

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<p>So then what was their reason for denying your appeal?</p>

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<p>…</p>

<p>Ruolin?</p>

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<p>You’re ■■■■■■■■.</p>

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<p>[University</a> of California - Admissions](<a href=“http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/ca_residency.html]University”>http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/ca_residency.html)
“Students holding nonimmigrant visas (F1, J1, etc.) may not establish California residency for purposes of fees.”</p>

<p>[UCLA</a> Registrar’s Office: Residence for Tuition Purposes–Noncitizens and Aliens](<a href=“http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/residence/noncit.htm]UCLA”>http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/residence/noncit.htm)
"Minor Alien</p>

<p>A minor alien may be eligible for California residence for tuition purposes if the parent with whom he or she resides has lived in California for more than one year immediately prior to the RDD, and during that time the parent has demonstrated intent to remain permanently in California.</p>

<p>Resident status is not available to a minor alien if the parent with whom the minor resides holds one of the following visas: B-1, B-2, C, D-1, D-2, F-1, F-2, H-2, H-3, J-1, J-2, M-1, M-2, O-2, P, Q, TN, or TD NAFTA.</p>

<p>A minor alien whose custodial parent entered the U.S. with one of these visa types may be eligible for residence if:</p>

<pre><code>* the parent has properly filed an application for adjustment of status to permanent resident more than one year prior to the RDD and provides an acknowledgement of receipt of the I-485, a USCIS receipt notice indicating a proper fee was paid for the filing of the I-485, or an employment authorization document with provision of law 274a.12(c)(9), and

  • the parent and student remain on a current, valid immgration status while waiting for a decision on the parent’s permanent residence application, and

  • the parent has received one of the following:
    o approved Petition to Classify Status of Alien Relative
    o approved preference petition
    o approved labor certification

       or

  • the parent is legally present and has properly filed a Request for Asylum (I-589) one year prior to the RDD (to verify proper filing, one must present acknowledgment of receipt for the I-589 and an employment authorization document with provision of law 2741.12(c)(8) that has not expired)"
    </code></pre>

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<p>ok binta.</p>

<p>I want you to bring to UCLA:</p>

<p>1) Your dad’s 2006, 2007 and 2008 tax returns, both Federal and State (make sure under the PERMANENT address line it has his California address on both and that YOUR name is on the list of his dependents)</p>

<p>2) A copy of his Gas or Electric Bill he’s been paying in the years 2006, 2007 AND 2008 (with California address). You don’t need to bring a copy for every month. Just one month from 2006, and month from 2007, and one month from 2008. </p>

<p>3) A copy of his driver’s license </p>

<p>These three documents will be sufficient and appropriate evidences to prove your dad’s California Residency, which will automatically qualify you to pay an in-state tuition. Also, Don’t forget to fill out the Petition for Residence Classification form.</p>

<p>I know the steps can be a bit tedious, but if everything goes well, you’re saving tons of money.</p>

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<p>dhl3, if the OP is not a citizen of the US, your plan does not correspond to the steps UCLA’s website says they will require. ([UCLA</a> Registrar’s Office: Residence for Tuition Purposes–Noncitizens and Aliens](<a href=“http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/residence/noncit.htm]UCLA”>http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/residence/noncit.htm))</p>

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<p>Binta-
it sound like you’ve got great advice up above on your q’s</p>

<p>If the best of plans above are ineffective and the worst is that you have to wait a year, I would suggest a quarter’s leave to save $$ and not loose your place at ucla. It is an easy process</p>

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<p>His dad has been working and living in the U.S. for three years. And I’m assuming he has a Visa to be eligible to reside and work in the States. I’m assuming he works under H-1B, which is one of the categories which qualifies him as a resident. He (the OP’s dad, which is all that matters ATM since OP was a minor when he/she moved to California) does not necessarily need to be a U.S. citizen to be a Resident.</p>

<p>Binta: What visa does your dad hold?</p>

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<p>Maybe they’re charging your tuition according to the number of commas you use.</p>

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<p>Calm down, and trust me - I freaked out as much as you did. (And I lived in CA for 12 years)</p>

<p>Fill out waiver AB 540. You qualify for the AB 540 nonresident tuition waiver since you graduated from a California HS.</p>

<p>My family and I have an immigrant visa as well, and the Fin Aid counselor advised me to fill this out so I can get in-state tuition. I also had to send the copy of my AND my parents’ passport, visas, driver’s license and etc etc.</p>

<p>Good luck, and CALL FINANCIAL AID OFFICE first thing Monday morning.</p>

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<p>Unfortunately, the OP doesn’t qualify for AB 540 since she only attended CA high school for two years (she needs have attended three years to qualify).</p>

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<p>I know you’re only angry when you say you want to burn the school to the ground, but that is a threat. I would be careful with your words in the future. If someone on here wanted to they could report you to the authorities, even though you’re most likely just upset and wouldn’t do such a thing. Just a heads up.</p>

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<p>dhl3, “Canadian citizens usually do not need a visa as a NAFTA Professional, although a visa can be issued to qualified TN visa applicants upon request.” (according to [Mexican</a> and Canadian NAFTA Professional Worker](<a href=“404 - Page Not Found”>404 - Page Not Found))</p>

<p>In addition, TD NAFTA and TN visa holders are not eligible for resident status with regard to UCLA tuition, but without more information from Binta, we can’t be sure what the situation may be.</p>

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<p>Oh I see. I’m surprised that the OP didn’t make that crucial detail clear in her super long explanation.</p>

<p>Isn’t it possible to ask to attend next year? (her financial situation sounds pretty dire)
Perhaps that way she can establish residency w/ that extra year. (or however long the minimum is)</p>