<p>"The other incident involved a student who had sex in an “inappropriate” place on campus. As a mother, I might think that any place on campus would be “inappropriate.” However, I appreciated that she clearly understood her error in judgment, accepted the disciplinary action by her school and learned from the experience. In addition, she was able to view the situation with honestly, maturity… and a bit of humor."</p>
<p>Wait, who doesn't have sex on campus?</p>
<p>FredFredBurger, the comments are from a college adcom about a high school applicant. I think there's a distinction to be made between HS and college campuses.</p>
<p>It was a joke lol. I thought that was obvious :)</p>
<p>There is plenty of sex going on at boarding school campuses. I guess an inappropriate place might be the chapel or a teacher's office?????</p>
<p>just don't tell them about it
they'll never find out... unless your counselor says something on the midyear</p>
<p>Thankfully, we haven't faced this issue with our sons, but I do think NSM and others have a point about the seriousness of high school suspensions. This article is supports that position. My son's high school has made it clear that these types of suspensions may negatively impact college acceptances.</p>
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Fairchild believes parents and high school students are "alarmingly uninformed" about how run-ins with the law or school-related disciplinary issues can negatively affect the college admissions process.</p>
<p>Not too long ago, he said, stealing test answers, sneaking beers into a high school dance and other "youthful indiscretions" meant taking punishment from the principal and parents and moving on. Now, more colleges want to hear about these missteps, too.</p>
<p>Indeed, many admissions officers are more closely scrutinizing the behavior of prospective students, especially in the aftermath of the massacre at Virginia Tech.</p>
<p>Last year, the Common Application, used by more than 300 schools, introduced discipline questions on its four-page form. **The student and the high school's guidance counselor must disclose any disciplinary violations from the ninth grade on that resulted in "probation, suspension, removal, dismissal or expulsion from the institution." **Students must also acknowledge whether they have been convicted of a misdemeanor, a felony or another crime.
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<p>Interesting article--thanks for posting it. </p>
<p>It does seem that the advice from the admissions professionals is to come clean about disciplinary problems before they are reported.</p>
<p>OK, I have three sons. One wrestles, one plays a lot of intramural sports. Great kids, hiked 60 miles in New Mexico, canoed the boundary waters and portaged the canoes, etc., etc. </p>
<p>None of them has ever gotten into a fight at school.</p>
<p>I quit reading around page 8, but I do hope that IF any explanation is given to the college that the OP wants to go to, the OP isn't the one writing it. He has no real remorse, in the sense that he seems to be saying that under the same circumstances he would do the exact same thing again. I agree with the folks who wouldn't want to room with the OP. </p>
<p>I teach high school. I see kids carted off by the cops all the time for fighting. It's illegal, folks (and OP). It's assault and battery. Stop trying to justify it in a testosterone fit of compensation.</p>
<p>I think the OP's got a valid argument for his choice. It is very easy for someone to look on the incident objectively and say "it's irrational and deserves a punishment simply because of what it is." Real life doesn't always involve that train of thought, though. I'm sure the OP did something he didn't mean to do as a reflex. It's human nature. I think it's unfair to criticize the OP for "lack of remorse" when he didn't do it with the clear intention of hurting another. He simply reacted to a negative stimulus. It's hard to feel bad for something you didn't do maliciously. </p>
<p>Unfortunately for the OP, justifying a suspension is going to be a tall order. Not everyone takes the time to think through the intricacies of the situation. It's much easier to lose faith in an applicant than gain it. Although I think it's unfair to call the incident an "assualt and battery," especially given the specific circumstances, I also think it's going to be very difficult to justify your case. Be honest and hope for the best. Hope that the AC looks deeper into your situation than dismissing it as a blight in character.</p>
<p>"I'm sure the OP did something he didn't mean to do as a reflex. It's human nature. "</p>
<p>Some humans have the nature that they would punch someone in the face who threw a ball in their face and then smirked at them. A lot of humans, however, don't have that kind of nature.</p>
<p>I think you can stop with the personal attacks, Northstarmom. You, as an adult, know better than that, especially on these forums.</p>
<p>MOWC: Read more carefully. That wasn't a personal attack. I simply disagree that it's human nature -- expected-- to punch someone in the face who smirks after deliberately throwing a ball that hits you in the face. Some humans have the nature that reacts that way. Some do not.</p>
<p>You should have continued reading, mom2three. I do have remorse for the broken nose, but none for the act of hitting him in return. The thing is that I just did not expect him to get hurt that badly. All I wanted was a slight mark on his face. You really can't blame me for wanting the same thing that happened to me to happen to him. Why should I get hurt really badly while he only gets a detention? But I obviously know that reacting with violence is the worst mistake one could make.</p>
<p>And I'm not a freaking moron. I'm not going to do the exact same thing again if something like this happened again. I made a mistake in this situation by not calming down beforehand. Don't jump to conclusions without knowing all the facts.</p>
<p>And I feel I should add this: my relationship with this guy is not all verbal, unlike I said before. This guy occasionally touches or slightly slaps my face while I just fend his hands away. He did these things to annoy me. I always let these go, because I'm honestly a lot stronger than him and because I did not want to get into any trouble. Seriously, this guy is really bony while I regularly lift weights. I knew he would get hurt really badly if he and I ever fought. And I take back with what I said before about being "cool" with him. He may think that he is with me, but he is often annoying to me. This guy really went too far this time. I can only take so much until I snap.</p>
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I'm not going to do the exact same thing again if something like this happened again. I can only take so much until I snap.....
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<p>Strawberry: </p>
<p>Sry, but your two lines are inconsistent; may I suggest you quit while you are way behind, You stated very clearly why adcoms will have a big concern with your acceptances; college is a whole LOT more pressure than high school, and they run a risk accpeting someone with a history.... Quite frankly, you are a risk for any roomie. Please, please get counseling for your anger management. (I realize that my words will fall on deaf ears, but I gotta try.)</p>
<p>Wait, wait, just because of this one mistake I made, I have anger management issues now? I honestly cannot believe you just said that. This is the FIRST TIME I actually snapped like this and hurt someone really badly. I have taken hits to the face before and I have let them all go, but considering who threw it, why he threw it, and how hard he threw it, you really can't blame me for snapping.</p>
<p>Wow, sorry, but I'm not taking advice from such an ignorant person who has no right to judge me like that. That is undeniably the most ridiculous comment I have read in this topic. I'm not taking that advice into consideration not because I have deaf ears but because it's coming from an obnoxious mouth.</p>
<p>Look, you're not 17 anymore. I am. You're telling me that there is not the slightest possibility that you would have reacted like me when you were 17? The throw was not from some random person - it was from someone who tried to annoy me a couple of times in the past and who specifically threw it at my face to provoke me. This guy even slightly slapped me in the face before, but I let it go then.</p>
<p>All of you adults stop thinking how you would have reacted now, but rather start thinking how you would have reacted when you were 17. That was a long time ago, wasn't it?</p>
<p>I have to admit: I was trying to get some responses from adults saying that they might have done something similar when they were younger, but not what they might have done if it happened to them NOW. That's what I meant when I asked the question. Try putting yourselves in my place for once. Most of you haven't been doing that. There is no way you were all born with all of life's lessons learned. I just learned a crucial one now.</p>
<p>And are you guys saying that your feelings and views have been exactly the same since you were a teenager? That's pretty freaking amazing if you ask me. Either that or all of you lived in perfect towns and lived perfect lives with no mistakes whatsoever.</p>
<p>It must be so fun ganging up on a high school senior who's under a whole lot of stress and absolutely miserable right now, isn't it?</p>
<p>I'm starting to think that some of you specifically waste hours on this site just to stress out students. Seriously, do something better with your free time.</p>
<p>Wow, it was definitely a big mistake trying to evoke some kind of sympathy out of you guys.</p>
<p>would probably have done something similar, but its always better to slash their tires later or do something that you cant be caught for...</p>
<p>And I still can't believe some people said that my admissions should be revoked. Honestly, that is what you guys feel? My future plans should go down the drain all because of ONE stupid mistake that I made? That might drive someone to make much more worse choices in his life if that was to happen. I have worked really hard in the past to try to get into a good college. Jesus Christ, it is unbelievable how heartless some of you guys are.</p>
<p>Oh, I'm not surprised that one of the people who said that my admissions should be revoked is bluebayou.</p>
<p>u'll be fine. they only care bout suspensions for cheating or breaking the law or drugs. </p>
<p>a few fights or too is nothing. i know i got into a few myself and i got into a top school</p>