I kind of hate myself for doing this

<p>But it’s another chance thread…
I applied EA (but they still don’t have my transcript, counselor recommendation, etc which is aggravating). </p>

<p>So anyways:
Gender: M
Age: 17
Ethnicity: Caucasian/Jewish
School: Prestigious, private day school in large metropolitan area
GPA: 3.65/4.00 (School doesn’t weight and there is VERY little grade inflation)
Rank: School doesn’t rank, but I’m about 15/100 (average GPA is ~3.3)
ACT: 33</p>

<p>ECs:
Boy Scouts (Eagle Scout)
Band (Trumpet and Guitar) (Multiple solo/ensemble awards at area/state, all-region band on trumpet)
Swimming (2 time letter winner, will be 3 time)
Snack Bar (school snack bar, profits go back to clubs)
Science Olympiad (multiple medals at Regional and State competitions, 2x Captain)
Political Action Club (VP)
Latin Club (Co-consul)
This isn’t close to all the stuff I do (the rest is in the resume I submitted), but that’s all I could fit on the Common App. </p>

<p>Lifeguard (x2)
Swim Instructor (for little kids)</p>

<p>Also, I have visited campus and applied to the CSOM.
Recommendations were very good (one from a teacher who went to BC High).
Common App essay was good. Interests in PolySci/Econ/Mathematics and hoping to go to Law School eventually.</p>

<p>Also. If I get admitted, do you think I would have a shot at the Honors College and/or the Presidential Scholarship?</p>

<p>Thanks in advance!</p>

<p>Also, I forgot to talk about my curriculum a lil’ bit.
Freshman year: 2 Honors Classes (most offered)
Sophomore year: 2 Honors Classes (most offered)
Junior year: AP Gov, 3 Honors Classes
Senior Year: AP Vergil, AP Calc BC, AP Bio</p>

<p>My school does NOT allow frosh/sophs to take APs, and only allows honors language and math for frosh/soph. All freshmen and sophomores take the same science, English, and history classes. STRICT limit of 3 APs a year for juniors/seniors.</p>

<p>BC awards two maybe three presidential scholarships for the entire class, so its quite a shot.</p>

<p>I had a 3.95/4.00 GPA ranked 5 in a large class at a competitive school, captained a couple varsity teams plus loads of AP and excellent recommendations including one from a BC graduate, was a finalist in the state student/athlete award but I was not offered the honors program. I was offered guaranteed 4 year housing, however :-)</p>

<p>ACT is low for the Presidential since its only top quartile, and would need to be top quintile for an unhooked candidate, IMO.</p>

<p>fwiw: if you are interested in top law schools, you might rethink undergrad biz as a major. According to the knowledgeable folks on the cc law school thread, undergrad biz is not highly regarded as a rigorous major by T-14 law schools. (Before I get flamed by CSOM parents, let me make clear this is a general statement for all undergrad B-schools, and no comment on the rigors of CSOM.)</p>

<p>neogop, I’m sorry but your GPA and ACT scores are definitely too low to be in the running for one of the Presidential Scholarships. Those are awarded to the very top 15 applicants and you are just not close to being there. And like ColdCase, my son’s stats were higher than yours and he was not chosen for the honors program either, so that’s probably a long shot too.</p>

<p>On a more positive note, though, I do think you have a good chance for EA admission.</p>

<p>Haha okay thanks y’all (I’m from Texas)! Ya, I didn’t think I had a good shot at the Presidential Scholarship since it’s THE top 15… but I thought I had a decent shot at the Honors Program. I did the math, and about 600 students are offered a spot in the Honors program. So maybe I’ll have a chance? I dunno. Just figured I would ask about the Scholarship…</p>

<p>As for the business/law thing: my true passion is PolySci/Law. I want to go into Constitutional Law, so I want something that will help prep me for that (PolySci). But I also really love math. And I love how Econ mixes the two! I wasn’t sure if I would prefer the college of arts and sciences over CSOM, so I picked CSOM because I reasoned it will be easier to transfer out rather than in, if the need arises. I’m not planning on majoring in business/management if that’s what you’re talking about, bluebayou. In fact, I think I read somewhere, though I have forgotten, that Econ, Poly Sci, Math, Philosophy, and English are the top 5 majors for incoming Law School students. (Coincidentally, Pre-law was, like, #17.) But thanks for all your help, this is very encouraging and exciting!</p>

<p>At BC, each school runs its own honors program. The CSOM honors program has only 30 - 35 freshmen. The A&S program has about 140. I haven’t found any specific stats on the CSOM honors students – although if there are only 35, they must be really high achievers! On the BC website, it says that the students selected for the A&S honors program generally have a SAT M+CR of 1450 (which is right around your ACT score of 33) and are in the top 5% of their senior class.</p>

<p>My DD class of 2011 BC was a RD…no honors but after the first year was invited into the honors program based on her college GPA ( near perfect GPA) so if you don’t get into the honors program, there is always a chance you can later. Not sure what the perks are with the honor program…I think you have an extra research paper to do?? She still did not get housing for her jr year.</p>

<p>I’ve read the websites for both honors programs: A&S and CSOM. I liked the A&S approach better. It seemed a lot more interesting and thought out. So… should I change my application? Is the A&S Econ program just as good as the CSOM? Or should I just keep my application with CSOM and then switch to A&S later if I choose? And how will that affect my chances for the Honors Program?</p>

<p>Anyone? 10char</p>

<p>Dunno what to tell you, but its not that easy to switch between schools (CSOM <-> A&S).</p>

<p>Okay. Changed my application from CSOM-Econ to A&S-Econ.
If I DO get in EA, when will I know if I got into the Honors Program, if at all?</p>

<p>PS Thank you guys so much for being helpful. It really reflects on the school, especially when some people in other forums are not as kind and helpful!</p>

<p>Dear neogop : If you are accepted to the Honors Program in CAS, your university acceptance package will include the details on your actions needed to join the program (like accepting the invitation to Honors). Further, it will also include your guarantee of four years of on-campus housing if such is a concern in your early days. (Side note - my oldest at BC is a combined Chemistry/Economics major in CAS and could not be happier with both programs.) Good luck with your application process.</p>

<p>^^Scott - chem/econ? Does your oldest find time to sleep? :)</p>

<p>Dear bluebayou : Sleep? I think the real skill afforded to both of my Boston College children was the time management skill that they learned themselves in High School.</p>

<p>For background … Oldest (Upper Classman) - Chemistry (major), economics (major), honors program, sports (intramural, soccer/volleyball), music program, research chemistry lab work (about to be published), panel discussions for visiting students to BC, and a host of other things. Youngest (Under Classman) - Mathematics (major), chemistry (major/minor), honors program, sports, music, and several other events. </p>

<p>Despite all of the work for both, they have made tons of friends, attend all the football games at Alumni, hockey games at Conte Forum, go into the city, meet their High School friends in and about Boston, and maintain active social lives on campus. Seriously, there is so much to enjoy about a BC education, I honestly feel like we are getting our money’s worth as a family if that makes any sense.</p>

<p>Wow thanks! To be honest, BC has/is not my number one, but it is certainly up there on my list… and reading a lot of stuff in this forum has made me more excited about BC in general, and I’m really hoping I get in!</p>